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Old 08-01-2016, 09:04 AM   Topic Starter
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Dee Ford breakdown
Pretty good 3rd party breakdown on Dee Ford.

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Old 08-01-2016, 09:11 AM   #2
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:17 AM   #3
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Do you have a good instinctual feeling about Dee's improvement (even more so) this season?
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:21 AM   #4
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Do you have a good instinctual feeling about Dee's improvement (even more so) this season?
Absolutely. The guy has just 6 starts under his belt, and clearly got bigger this offseason. He will definitely get better.
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:22 AM   #5
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Absolutely. The guy has just 6 starts under his belt, and clearly got bigger this offseason. He will definitely get better.
Good! I hope so.

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Old 08-01-2016, 12:47 PM   #7
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Do you have a good instinctual feeling about Dee's improvement (even more so) this season?
Staylor thinks every player on the team is a future hall of famer, so I'm sure his analysis will be objective.
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Staylor thinks every player on the team is a future hall of famer, so I'm sure his analysis will be objective.
Name one player outside of CAT (who I said could be a good situational pass rusher then some people blew it out of proportion) that I've hyped up that hasn't panned out?

Kelce, Peters, Howard, Gaines, Jones, Murray, Fisher, Nelson, Parker, Morse, March.

Those are the unknowns that I've hyped up to some level or another over the past few years. Some haven't gotten their opportunity, some have had injuries, and some were spot on. I'm right more often than not though.

The problem is, any time I have anything remotely positive to say about a guy that isn't proven, I'm immediately labeled a homer that thinks he's going to be a Pro Bowler/HOF when I never said such a thing.

Take Nelson for example, all offseason I said he could take the nickel spot and be a solid player there, but since he didn't do shit his entire rookie year I was labeled a homer. Here we are now and Nelson currently has the nickel spot and has been impressing ever since OTA's.

What some of you don't realize is that I actually watch these guys a ton going into the draft, and after, so I am not just pulling my takes on them out of my ass. I'm just not scared to evaluate players before I see them in the NFL.
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Old 08-01-2016, 04:14 PM   #9
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Name one player outside of CAT (who I said could be a good situational pass rusher then some people blew it out of proportion) that I've hyped up that hasn't panned out?

Kelce, Peters, Howard, Gaines, Jones, Murray, Fisher, Nelson, Parker, Morse, March.

Those are the unknowns that I've hyped up to some level or another over the past few years. Some haven't gotten their opportunity, some have had injuries, and some were spot on. I'm right more often than not though.

The problem is, any time I have anything remotely positive to say about a guy that isn't proven, I'm immediately labeled a homer that thinks he's going to be a Pro Bowler/HOF when I never said such a thing.

Take Nelson for example, all offseason I said he could take the nickel spot and be a solid player there, but since he didn't do shit his entire rookie year I was labeled a homer. Here we are now and Nelson currently has the nickel spot and has been impressing ever since OTA's.

What some of you don't realize is that I actually watch these guys a ton going into the draft, and after, so I am not just pulling my takes on them out of my ass. I'm just not scared to evaluate players before I see them in the NFL.
Dude, COME ON!!! I agree with a lot of your takes, and it's not a knock on your intelligence, but you absolutely 100% are a homer. Now I know that term is usually meant to be an insult, but in this case it isn't meant to be that harsh. It's just pointing out that you see basically everything for KC to be rosy. The refs hate us, or there are 10 excuses for why somebody hasn't panned out.

Every guy is going to reach his potential in your mind and everything is going to go wrong for our rivals. You were ripping SD for taking Bosa saying he wouldn't fit in their scheme. You know that even if he didn't fit in KC's scheme, you absolutely would be singing KC's praises for taking him.

This is what annoys me reading your posts. If you just admitted who you are, it would be so much easier to see the intelligence in your evaluations and not just be sitting here in astonishment that you don't hear yourself. You are a good guy for this board, but just acknowledge what is happening here. Although perhaps you could pat yourself on the back a little less when you are right. If you go find 40 random posts of yours, how many aren't predicting best case scenarios or are pointing out that you were right about something. Hell, the post I just quoted has both of those things.
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Name one player outside of CAT (who I said could be a good situational pass rusher then some people blew it out of proportion) that I've hyped up that hasn't panned out?

Kelce, Peters, Howard, Gaines, Jones, Murray, Fisher, Nelson, Parker, Morse, March.

Those are the unknowns that I've hyped up to some level or another over the past few years. Some haven't gotten their opportunity, some have had injuries, and some were spot on. I'm right more often than not though.

The problem is, any time I have anything remotely positive to say about a guy that isn't proven, I'm immediately labeled a homer that thinks he's going to be a Pro Bowler/HOF when I never said such a thing.

Take Nelson for example, all offseason I said he could take the nickel spot and be a solid player there, but since he didn't do shit his entire rookie year I was labeled a homer. Here we are now and Nelson currently has the nickel spot and has been impressing ever since OTA's.

What some of you don't realize is that I actually watch these guys a ton going into the draft, and after, so I am not just pulling my takes on them out of my ass. I'm just not scared to evaluate players before I see them in the NFL.
I hate to kick a guy for being optimistic, but you are the Chiefs fan version of knowmo.
Like I said, I'm not tryin to pick at you.
Your lenses are as Rosie as they come, though.
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That would be Jones..there is video of him to prove the inches
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Pretty much what we said earlier. The speed to power issue cost him the sack on Brady in the playoff game.

He had a handful of "close but no cigar" rushes where we barely missed the sack and those are what he needs to finish this year.
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