What's the biggest problem with the Chiefs offense?

[BossChief]

I know there has been a lot of talk about this topic and I just want to see what the majority of the people here think the biggest issue is that causes the offense to underperform.

[TEX]

OL

[scho63]

Originally Posted by TEX

OL

First answer = best answer!

[jd1020]

The fact that it exists.

The entire thing needs be burned in an AIDS fire.

[threebag]

play calling, execution, oline sucks, receivers are lack luster

[Sorter]

Inb4 pole.

[WhiteWhale]

Andy Reid's stupid obsession with throwing even when it's not effective while at the same time forgetting the best RB in the NFL plays for his team.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Andy Reid's stupid obsession with throwing even when it's not effective.

His only other option is to run it even when it's not effective. Not sure if you've been paying attention lately, but the running lanes simply haven't been there. And they won't be there until the Chiefs develop a passing game.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

His only other option is to run it even when it's not effective. Not sure if you've been paying attention lately, but the running lanes simply haven't been there. And they won't be there until the Chiefs develop a passing game.

KC RB's had 91 yards on 22 attempts against Oakland weeks ago. Over 4 YPC

KC's RB's had 35 yards on 10 carries against the Broncos. Bad game all around by the offense.

Against Arizona charles had 91 yards on 10 carries... the team managed 100 yards on 13 carries.

KC lost all three games, and I'd say the run game was ineffective in one of those games. It simply wasn't utilized enough.

In most games, the run game works because Jamaal is a bad ass. Of course the passing game NEEDS to be more effective, but unless we get a new OL, new WR's, and a different QB (which won't happen this season) it's probably best to utilize the strengths of the team Reid has rather than the one he wishes he had. I suppose this was a personnel question, but I took it differently because changing personnel is not an option.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

KC RB's had 91 yards on 22 attempts against Oakland weeks ago. Over 4 YPC

KC's RB's had 35 yards on 10 carries against the Broncos. Bad game all around by the offense.

Against Arizona charles had 91 yards on 10 carries... the team managed 100 yards on 13 carries.

KC lost all three games, and I'd say the run game was ineffective in one of those games. It simply wasn't utilized enough.

Take away his longest run of 63 yards in that AZ game and he was averaging just a little north of 3 YPC. Defenses are stacking the box and forcing Alex to beat them. Charles can break a long one...sure. But it's not going to happen all the time.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

KC RB's had 91 yards on 22 attempts against Oakland weeks ago. Over 4 YPC

KC's RB's had 35 yards on 10 carries against the Broncos. Bad game all around by the offense.

Against Arizona charles had 91 yards on 10 carries... the team managed 100 yards on 13 carries.

KC lost all three games, and I'd say the run game was ineffective in one of those games. It simply wasn't utilized enough.

In most games, the run game works because Jamaal is a bad ass. Of course the passing game NEEDS to be more effective, but unless we get a new OL, new WR's, and a different QB (which won't happen this season) it's probably best to utilize the strengths of the team Reid has rather than the one he wishes he had. I suppose this was a personnel question, but I took it differently because changing personnel is not an option.

The box score stats you listed barely tell a mere portion of the story.

Lets take a closer look:

KC @ Oak: 20-89; 4.4YPC

DEN @ KC: 10-35; 3.5YPC

KC @ AZ: (Minus the 63 Yard run outlier) 10-32; 3.2 YPC

OAK @ KC: 21-63; 3YPC

Notice a trend?

That's about 3.5 YPC over the course of a 4 game stretch.

That's a pattern. And the pattern says that our running game has not been effective. And simply bashing your head into a brickwall hoping that the brickwall breaks isn't a great idea.

Bottom line is that the Chiefs have to throw the ball in order for their ground game to become a effective again.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

The box score stats you listed barely tell a mere portion of the story.

Lets take a closer look:

KC @ Oak: 20-89; 4.4YPC

DEN @ KC: 10-35; 3.5YPC

KC @ AZ: (Minus the 63 Yard run outlier) 10-32; 3.2 YPC

OAK @ KC: 21-63; 3YPC

Notice a trend?

That's about 3.5 YPC over the course of a 4 game stretch.

That's a pattern. And the pattern says that our running game has not been effective. And simply bashing your head into a brickwall hoping that the brickwall breaks isn't a great idea.

Bottom line is that the Chiefs have to throw the ball in order for their ground game to become a effective again.

I agree with this.

But there is something that really annoys me when the announcers talk about the Chiefs putrid passing game every week. They always mention Smith being a game manager and not throwing downfield. They also mention that the WRs are not very good as a group over all. But the one factor that they always forget to mention is the pass blocking. And that, to me, is the biggest reason for the terrible ranking in passing. That a big reason that the Chiefs utilize the short passing and don't throw deep. They simply don't normally have the time to throw it deep.

Now I did notice that with McGlynn not being in there last week the pass blocking looked much improved. I watched the LG on quite a few plays and I thought Linkenbaugh actually did a decent job. My only question is how bad did Linkenbaugh have to be in practice to not be able to beat out a horrible pass blocker in McGlynn?

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

The box score stats you listed barely tell a mere portion of the story.

Lets take a closer look:

KC @ Oak: 20-89; 4.4YPC

DEN @ KC: 10-35; 3.5YPC

KC @ AZ: (Minus the 63 Yard run outlier) 10-32; 3.2 YPC

OAK @ KC: 21-63; 3YPC

Notice a trend?

That's about 3.5 YPC over the course of a 4 game stretch.

That's a pattern. And the pattern says that our running game has not been effective. And simply bashing your head into a brickwall hoping that the brickwall breaks isn't a great idea.

Bottom line is that the Chiefs have to throw the ball in order for their ground game to become a effective again.

That's right, and that's why there was the change at LG.

[ChiefsChoke010414]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

His only other option is to run it even when it's not effective. Not sure if you've been paying attention lately, but the running lanes simply haven't been there. And they won't be there until the Chiefs develop a passing game.

Then how does Charles happen to have the all time YPC mark? Because the passing game has never really been there during his career.

Reid is just not patient enough with the running game to stick with it and give Charles or Davis the opportunity to break a big one.

To answer the OP's question, the number one reason the offense isn't average is the offensive line. The number one reason they aren't and will never be elite in today's NFL, is the QB position.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by ChiefsChoke010414

Then how does Charles happen to have the all time YPC mark? Because the passing game has never really been there during his career.

Reid is just not patient enough with the running game to stick with it and give Charles or Davis the opportunity to break a big one.

To answer the OP's question, the number one reason the offense isn't average is the offensive line. The number one reason they aren't and will never be elite in today's NFL, is the QB position.

Matt Cassel threw down the field. He didn't do it accurately....but he'd at least ****ing do it.