Chiefs Let's talk about the Patriots.

Direckshun · 09-22-2014, 05:46 AM

I've been encouraged by the fight in this Chiefs team over the past two games. I think we've got what it takes to take it to a Patriots squad that is truly reeling.

I think this is the first truly good opponent we beat since we upset New Orleans a couple years ago.

Let's take a look at the roster.

At QB, Tom Brady is having about as bad of a season as he's had -- just in time for me to have him in fantasy football. Thanks, Tom. Tom's got zero rapport with most of his receivers, and he's just flat missing throws. He looks unfocused, the skill positions around him are generally poor (with the one key exception of Julian Edelman), and they've struggled mightily through three weeks.

I like Shane Vereen, and I do wonder why they don't run him more. As of now it seems they're giving Stevan Ridley most of the carries, and he's got that great combo of size and speed, but his YPA has fallen for three years now, and he's only averaging 3.4/carry this year. Vereen's got a lot more wiggle to him, averaging nearly 5 yards a carry.

At receiver, I have no ****ing idea what's going on. You have the exceptional Julian Edelmen and nobody else. Danny Amendola has two week's worth of zero catches -- is he injured? Google doesn't turn up anything for me. Aaron Dobson, Brandon LaFell, and Kenbrell Thomkins round out the receivers corps. If it wasn't for Edelman, I'd say the Chiefs hands-down have the better WR corps -- which is ****ing saying something. And even with him...

The crown jewel of their passing attack, of course, was supposed to be Gronkowski at TE. Who, all told, has looked slower than Fasano.

Say it with me now: Alex Smith has better weapons at his disposal than Tom Brady does.

I have no idea what the Patriots were doing trading Logan Mankins away, because their OL is terrible. Solder and Vollmer are unremarkable at the tackles, I suppose they're good enough, but their interior of Cannon, Wendell, and Connolly are getting slaughtered this year. Poe, Bailey, Walker and Vickerson should feast.

Their defense is a ton better.

The best player on their team as of today is probably Vance Wilfork, who is going to make our guards look silly. I don't know what the Patriots gameplan on defense is, but it probably involves sending Wilfork screaming at McGlynn or Fulton. The Patriots also have two sneaky-good DTs complimenting him in Sealver Siliga (solid runstopper) and Joe Vellano (athletic 3-tech). Of course, they also have the potentially lethal Dominique Easley, who can play both DT and DE, and has an epic first step. He has struggled to get his footing so far, but he has made a couple plays that provide glimpses into the player he could become.

Chandler Jones is their primary rush threat off the edge, and he's done well so far this year. Rob Ninkovich has been around for what seems like 10 years or so, and is playing the best football of his life under Belichek the past three years -- which is to say, fairly okay passrushing and a couple sacks a month. And the Patriots have zero depth at passrusher.

They have one of the best LB corps in the league: Jamie Collins, Jerod Mayo, and Dont'a Hightower are all 1st and 2nd round picks, one of the only 4-3 teams in the league to actually do that -- which explains why they have zero playmakers. Collins is their finesse, Hightower is their power, and Mayo can do it all in the middle of the field. It will be extremely entertaining seeing Kelce try to matching up with them in his route-running and blocking. It will be a challenge.

Brandon Browner may be out, but the Pats are still stacked with talent at corner. We are going to have to win this game without Dwayne Bowe, as he will almost certainly disappear on Revis Island. Alonzo Dennard and Kyle Arrington are a good duo of backup CBs, and I love the potential of Logan Ryan.

Patrick Chung is terrible, but paired with the excellent Devin McCourty, you've got an alright safety lineup -- albeit with zero depth behind them.

Special teams feature one of the best kickers in the game in Gostowski, a middling punter in Ryan Allen, and the great Julian Edelmen returning punts.

Kman34 · 09-22-2014, 05:51 AM

Pound the rock just like against the Fins and we'll be ok....

Direckshun · 09-22-2014, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34

Pound the rock just like against the Fins and we'll be ok....

For what it's worth, the Pats currently have the league's least yardage allowed in the passing game, thanks to Revis, their good CB depth, good linebacker coverage (particularly Collins and Mayo), and one of the best free safeties in the league.

Kman34 · 09-22-2014, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

For what it's worth, the Pats currently have the league's least yardage allowed in the passing game, thanks to Revis, their good CB depth, good linebacker coverage (particularly Collins and Mayo), and one of the best free safeties in the league.

I didn't think they looked that good against the Raiders.. Thought they struggled to put them away. And they were playing at home.

temper11 · 09-22-2014, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34

Pound the rock just like against the Fins and we'll be ok....

Triumph, the insult comic dog, is the best.

Amnorix · 09-22-2014, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34

Pound the rock just like against the Fins and we'll be ok....

Pats run D has been pretty decent since that terrible game against Miami. I think you should find the sledding pretty tough.

DeathByArrows · 09-22-2014, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Pats run D has been pretty decent since that terrible game against Miami. I think you should find the sledding pretty tough.

Minnesota didn't have Peterson and Oakland has nobody. Both teams also aren't a threat to move the football through the air.

Amnorix · 09-22-2014, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsBrandon

Minnesota didn't have Peterson and Oakland has nobody. Both teams also aren't a threat to move the football through the air.

Believe me, I know.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-22-2014, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Then you just don't like football.

You're dead inside.

Actually, I rather enjoyed watching Peyton get his shit pushed in, in a game that actually mattered in life.

Dunerdr · 09-23-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Pats run D has been pretty decent since that terrible game against Miami. I think you should find the sledding pretty tough.

The pats played backups or wash ups since Moreno took it to them. I honestly think kniles Moreno good Jamal's far better.

Coochie liquor · 09-22-2014, 06:20 AM

They're def beatable! Can our team beat em? I think we CAN, but guess it depends which team shows up. If we can run it like we have the last 2 weeks it will surely lessen the load.

Mother****erJones · 09-22-2014, 06:41 AM

We aren't beating the Pats. They'll scheme and make Alex beat em...and he won't. In front of the whole world.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-22-2014, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

We aren't beating the Pats. They'll scheme and make Alex beat em...and he won't. In front of the whole world.

Right. And Denver was gonna put up 50. And Miami was gonna win handily.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-22-2014, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Right. And Denver was gonna put up 50. And Miami was gonna win handily.

You're right. God willing we can achieve that magical 7-9/9-7 golden ratio of suck, followed by an immediate exit from the play offs via a WC.

Good times!

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-22-2014, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 505 Chief

You're right. God willing we can achieve that magical 7-9/9-7 golden ratio of suck, followed by an immediate exit from the play offs via a WC.

Good times!

Losing 14 games this season helps nothing.

Are you so ****ing short-sighted to think Hunt will fire Reid and Dorsey after 2 seasons?

They are here, 3 more seasons, minimum.

Prepare yourself.

09-22-2014, 05:46 AM	Topic Starter
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4163447	Let's talk about the Patriots. I've been encouraged by the fight in this Chiefs team over the past two games. I think we've got what it takes to take it to a Patriots squad that is truly reeling. I think this is the first truly good opponent we beat since we upset New Orleans a couple years ago. Let's take a look at the roster. At QB, Tom Brady is having about as bad of a season as he's had -- just in time for me to have him in fantasy football. Thanks, Tom. Tom's got zero rapport with most of his receivers, and he's just flat missing throws. He looks unfocused, the skill positions around him are generally poor (with the one key exception of Julian Edelman), and they've struggled mightily through three weeks. I like Shane Vereen, and I do wonder why they don't run him more. As of now it seems they're giving Stevan Ridley most of the carries, and he's got that great combo of size and speed, but his YPA has fallen for three years now, and he's only averaging 3.4/carry this year. Vereen's got a lot more wiggle to him, averaging nearly 5 yards a carry. At receiver, I have no **ing idea what's going on. You have the exceptional Julian Edelmen and nobody else. Danny Amendola has two week's worth of zero catches -- is he injured? Google doesn't turn up anything for me. Aaron Dobson, Brandon LaFell, and Kenbrell Thomkins round out the receivers corps. If it wasn't for Edelman, I'd say the Chiefs hands-down have the better WR corps -- which is **ing saying something. And even with him... The crown jewel of their passing attack, of course, was supposed to be Gronkowski at TE. Who, all told, has looked slower than Fasano. Say it with me now: Alex Smith has better weapons at his disposal than Tom Brady does. I have no idea what the Patriots were doing trading Logan Mankins away, because their OL is terrible. Solder and Vollmer are unremarkable at the tackles, I suppose they're good enough, but their interior of Cannon, Wendell, and Connolly are getting slaughtered this year. Poe, Bailey, Walker and Vickerson should feast. Their defense is a ton better. The best player on their team as of today is probably Vance Wilfork, who is going to make our guards look silly. I don't know what the Patriots gameplan on defense is, but it probably involves sending Wilfork screaming at McGlynn or Fulton. The Patriots also have two sneaky-good DTs complimenting him in Sealver Siliga (solid runstopper) and Joe Vellano (athletic 3-tech). Of course, they also have the potentially lethal Dominique Easley, who can play both DT and DE, and has an epic first step. He has struggled to get his footing so far, but he has made a couple plays that provide glimpses into the player he could become. Chandler Jones is their primary rush threat off the edge, and he's done well so far this year. Rob Ninkovich has been around for what seems like 10 years or so, and is playing the best football of his life under Belichek the past three years -- which is to say, fairly okay passrushing and a couple sacks a month. And the Patriots have zero depth at passrusher. They have one of the best LB corps in the league: Jamie Collins, Jerod Mayo, and Dont'a Hightower are all 1st and 2nd round picks, one of the only 4-3 teams in the league to actually do that -- which explains why they have zero playmakers. Collins is their finesse, Hightower is their power, and Mayo can do it all in the middle of the field. It will be extremely entertaining seeing Kelce try to matching up with them in his route-running and blocking. It will be a challenge. Brandon Browner may be out, but the Pats are still stacked with talent at corner. We are going to have to win this game without Dwayne Bowe, as he will almost certainly disappear on Revis Island. Alonzo Dennard and Kyle Arrington are a good duo of backup CBs, and I love the potential of Logan Ryan. Patrick Chung is terrible, but paired with the excellent Devin McCourty, you've got an alright safety lineup -- albeit with zero depth behind them. Special teams feature one of the best kickers in the game in Gostowski, a middling punter in Ryan Allen, and the great Julian Edelmen returning punts.
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Coochie liquor Bolton gonna knock you out Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Free Vybz Kartel Casino cash: $2322394	They're def beatable! Can our team beat em? I think we CAN, but guess it depends which team shows up. If we can run it like we have the last 2 weeks it will surely lessen the load.
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