Chiefs Chiefs right to pass on DeSean Jackson

Stryker · 03-31-2014, 07:10 AM

From a purely football standpoint, the Kansas City Chiefs couldn't have found a better wide receiver for their balky passing game than DeSean Jackson. He definitely would have provided life to a group of wide receivers that was last in the NFL in 2013 in targets, catches and yardage.

Since 2008 Jackson has 21 touchdowns of 30 or more yards and was third in average yards per catch at 17.2 for the Philadelphia Eagles, who released him last week. Add in the fact Jackson thrived for the first five seasons of his NFL career playing for Andy Reid, now coaching the Chiefs, and Jackson coming to Kansas City seemed to make a lot of sense. But the Chiefs will look elsewhere, probably to the draft, for that receiving help. After making some initial inquiries into Jackson's availability, the Chiefs backed off, reportedly because of cost concerns.

The Chiefs, who have about $4.5 million of remaining cap space, could have found a way to squeeze Jackson's salary under their limit. But at what cost? The Chiefs would like to re-sign quarterback Alex Smith and linebacker Justin Houston before they can become free agents next year. Neither will come at a favorable price. Safety Eric Berry is among the players who could become an unrestricted free agent in 2016 and he too will be expensive.

Signing Jackson at top dollar would have cost them one of those players and perhaps more. But there's something else at work here. Adding Jackson would have smelled of panic. It would have been a sign the Chiefs were veering away from their plan, making it up on the fly. You can argue the merits of their plan, but Reid and general manager John Dorsey prefer to find their stars, the players they build the foundation around, through the draft and not as free agents.

Listen closely to what Reid said recently about free agency.

"Listen, I'm not a huge free-agency guy," Reid said last week at the NFL meetings in Orlando, Fla. "I don't think you build a team that way. I think you build it through a draft. There are so many elements that go into a player actually fitting into your program and being successful, that if you get them right when they're peaking in that system and then you disrupt that and move them on to another system, that can be tough. So, the percentage has dropped, the success rate has dropped. I think you spot a guy here or there.

"Then you have the other element that it has the chance to disrupt your locker room. This guy has been with me for 10 years and is making X amount and then all of the sudden you bring in a free agent who might be as good, but maybe not as good, and you're paying him way up here and all of the sudden you have this rift that goes on in the locker room. I think you have to be real, real careful on who you bring in and how you do it.”

Adding Jackson at something less than a premium price might have made sense. The Chiefs wouldn't need to guess about projecting how Jackson might do in Reid's system. They could look at his production from those five seasons they were together with the Eagles.

But the Chiefs made their decision, for better or for worse, about a high-priced wide receiver last year when they re-signed Dwayne Bowe for five years and $56 million. That's about all a team can reasonably afford without gutting another part of the roster.

That's not to say a move of this nature would always be a bad move for the Chiefs. When their salary cap is in better shape and the signing of a big-money player like Jackson might reasonably put the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, they should go for it, by all means.

And there will be a time and place. But this wasn't it.

http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...ass-on-jackson

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-31-2014, 07:11 AM

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TEX · 03-31-2014, 07:16 AM

And now the "Official DeSean Jackson Rationalization Thread" has begun...Typical. Its TOTAL ****ING BULL SHIT if its all about the $$$. That COULD be minimized with a LARGE SIGNING BONUS but the Hunts dont believe in that. Same old Chiefs sighting cost rather than finding a way. They lost out on Emanual Sanders because they didnt want to pay "top dollar" in a lower tier and THAT is an ongoing theme. Deal is they NEVER sign "big $$$ players" so the time will NEVER be right to do so. With their lame ass approach this off season, they have shown that ast season did not mean shit. They're not building on anything and doing what it takes to take the next step. Just like most of the times the season after they make the playoffs. The more things change, the more they remain the same. ****ING Pathetic.

Katipan · 03-31-2014, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

And now the "Official DeSean Jackson Rationalization Thread" has begun...Typical. Its TOTAL ****ING BULL SHIT if its all about the $$$. That COULD be minimized with a LARGE SIGNING BONUS but the Hunts dont believe in that. Same old Chiefs sighting cost rather than finding a way. Deal is they NEVER sign "big $$$ players" so the time will NEVER be right to do so. The more things change, the more they remain the same. Pathetic.

This is not meant to be bitchy, I'm genuinely fascinated by people and their motivations. So tell me to **** off that's fine, but do it knowing I'm just curious. K?

Why are the people that see no hope for joy still Chiefs fans? If everything is how it's always been, and nothing will ever change, doesn't it speak more for your lunacy than anything else?

TEX · 03-31-2014, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan

This is not meant to be bitchy, I'm genuinely fascinated by people and their motivations. So tell me to **** off that's fine, but do it knowing I'm just curious. K?

Why are the people that see no hope for joy still Chiefs fans? If everything is how it's always been, and nothing will ever change, doesn't it speak more for your lunacy than anything else?

Absolutely not. If you have been a life long fan, you are connected with the team through something more. You keep hoping that one day, the team you follow will LEARN something ...Let me ask you something - Do you see the world the same way you did as a child?

Katipan · 03-31-2014, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Let me ask you something - Do you see the world the same way you did as a child?

No. I gather I learned stuff and grew up. But as a kid I was told what to like. My favorite part about growing up is getting to decide for myself.

I'm not on some campaign to hand out rose colored glasses. I like reality. But I'm also not going to make being miserable a part of my daily routine. Not implying you are. But there are definitely some.

htismaqe · 03-31-2014, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan

Why are the people that see no hope for joy still Chiefs fans?

This place.

It's true. I've been here for 12 years, I was one of the first 3 or 4 members.

I'm WAY more attached to Chiefsplanet than I am to the Chiefs. In fact, for a time last spring/early summer, I went 5 or 6 weeks without any football at all. No CP, no Chiefs, no NFLN, nothing.

Katipan · 03-31-2014, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

This place.

It's true. I've been here for 12 years, I was one of the first 3 or 4 members.

I'm WAY more attached to Chiefsplanet than I am to the Chiefs. In fact, for a time last spring/early summer, I went 5 or 6 weeks without any football at all. No CP, no Chiefs, no NFLN, nothing.

That is a very sweet reason to become a football masochist. And makes alot of sense.

Just happy you're getting something from it. I get highs and lows and cute clothes.

htismaqe · 03-31-2014, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan

That is a very sweet reason to become a football masochist. And makes alot of sense.

Just happy you're getting something from it. I get highs and lows and cute clothes.

I'm not a masochist because the Chiefs don't make me feel pain. I don't really feel anything at all actually, until the games come on. And even then, when they lose, I can laugh about it...

beach tribe · 03-31-2014, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

This place.

It's true. I've been here for 12 years, I was one of the first 3 or 4 members.

I'm WAY more attached to Chiefsplanet than I am to the Chiefs. In fact, for a time last spring/early summer, I went 5 or 6 weeks without any football at all. No CP, no Chiefs, no NFLN, nothing.

Now, you see, THIS makes sense.

You threw in the towel a long time ago.

T-post Tom · 03-31-2014, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

... That COULD be minimized with a LARGE SIGNING BONUS but the Hunts dont believe in that. Same old Chiefs sighting cost rather than finding a way.

Total BS. Might want to hit the decaf pot...

Signing Bonuses

1. Dwayne Bowe -- $15,000,000
2. Tamba Hali -- $14,823,530
3. Eric Fischer -- $14,518,544
4. Brandon Flowers -- $10,000,000
5. Sean Smith -- $ 6,750,000
6. Dontari Poe -- $ 6,672,730

Marcellus · 03-31-2014, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Total BS. Might want to hit the decaf pot...

Signing Bonuses

1. Dwayne Bowe -- $15,000,000
2. Tamba Hali -- $14,823,530
3. Eric Fischer -- $14,518,544
4. Brandon Flowers -- $10,000,000
5. Sean Smith -- $ 6,750,000
6. Dontari Poe -- $ 6,672,730

It doesn't fit the narrative therefore it will be ignored.

TEX · 03-31-2014, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

It doesn't fit the narrative therefore it will be ignored.

Ignored? The "narrative" was FREE AGENTS. Totally different subject. You do understand that, right?

Marcellus · 03-31-2014, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Ignored? The "narrative" was FREE AGENTS. Totally different subject. You do understand that, right?

Why do they have to spend $$ on free agency to justify anything?

Why is that so important to you?

Spend the $ on your own players and build through the draft, thats been the mantra for some time.

TEX · 03-31-2014, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Total BS. Might want to hit the decaf pot...

Signing Bonuses

1. Dwayne Bowe -- $15,000,000
2. Tamba Hali -- $14,823,530
3. Eric Fischer -- $14,518,544
4. Brandon Flowers -- $10,000,000
5. Sean Smith -- $ 6,750,000
6. Dontari Poe -- $ 6,672,730

Lets play... The context I was discussing was FREE AGENTS. Name all the FREE AGENTS on the Chiefs whose contract includes a large signing bonus?

Mention Bowe and be sure to mention ALL contract parameters and you might realize something...

Learn anything? You ought to not take people out of context before you open your mouth. like my coffee how it is. How do you like your crow?

03-31-2014, 07:10 AM	Topic Starter
Stryker Steel sharpens Steele! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Casino cash: $1464636	Chiefs right to pass on DeSean Jackson From a purely football standpoint, the Kansas City Chiefs couldn't have found a better wide receiver for their balky passing game than DeSean Jackson. He definitely would have provided life to a group of wide receivers that was last in the NFL in 2013 in targets, catches and yardage. Since 2008 Jackson has 21 touchdowns of 30 or more yards and was third in average yards per catch at 17.2 for the Philadelphia Eagles, who released him last week. Add in the fact Jackson thrived for the first five seasons of his NFL career playing for Andy Reid, now coaching the Chiefs, and Jackson coming to Kansas City seemed to make a lot of sense. But the Chiefs will look elsewhere, probably to the draft, for that receiving help. After making some initial inquiries into Jackson's availability, the Chiefs backed off, reportedly because of cost concerns. The Chiefs, who have about $4.5 million of remaining cap space, could have found a way to squeeze Jackson's salary under their limit. But at what cost? The Chiefs would like to re-sign quarterback Alex Smith and linebacker Justin Houston before they can become free agents next year. Neither will come at a favorable price. Safety Eric Berry is among the players who could become an unrestricted free agent in 2016 and he too will be expensive. Signing Jackson at top dollar would have cost them one of those players and perhaps more. But there's something else at work here. Adding Jackson would have smelled of panic. It would have been a sign the Chiefs were veering away from their plan, making it up on the fly. You can argue the merits of their plan, but Reid and general manager John Dorsey prefer to find their stars, the players they build the foundation around, through the draft and not as free agents. Listen closely to what Reid said recently about free agency. "Listen, I'm not a huge free-agency guy," Reid said last week at the NFL meetings in Orlando, Fla. "I don't think you build a team that way. I think you build it through a draft. There are so many elements that go into a player actually fitting into your program and being successful, that if you get them right when they're peaking in that system and then you disrupt that and move them on to another system, that can be tough. So, the percentage has dropped, the success rate has dropped. I think you spot a guy here or there. "Then you have the other element that it has the chance to disrupt your locker room. This guy has been with me for 10 years and is making X amount and then all of the sudden you bring in a free agent who might be as good, but maybe not as good, and you're paying him way up here and all of the sudden you have this rift that goes on in the locker room. I think you have to be real, real careful on who you bring in and how you do it.” Adding Jackson at something less than a premium price might have made sense. The Chiefs wouldn't need to guess about projecting how Jackson might do in Reid's system. They could look at his production from those five seasons they were together with the Eagles. But the Chiefs made their decision, for better or for worse, about a high-priced wide receiver last year when they re-signed Dwayne Bowe for five years and $56 million. That's about all a team can reasonably afford without gutting another part of the roster. That's not to say a move of this nature would always be a bad move for the Chiefs. When their salary cap is in better shape and the signing of a big-money player like Jackson might reasonably put the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, they should go for it, by all means. And there will be a time and place. But this wasn't it. http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...ass-on-jackson
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TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Galveston, TX Casino cash: $943127	And now the "Official DeSean Jackson Rationalization Thread" has begun...Typical. Its TOTAL **ING BULL SHIT if its all about the $$$. That COULD be minimized with a LARGE SIGNING BONUS but the Hunts dont believe in that. Same old Chiefs sighting cost rather than finding a way. They lost out on Emanual Sanders because they didnt want to pay "top dollar" in a lower tier and THAT is an ongoing theme. Deal is they NEVER sign "big $$$ players" so the time will NEVER be right to do so. With their lame ass approach this off season, they have shown that ast season did not mean shit. They're not building on anything and doing what it takes to take the next step. Just like most of the times the season after they make the playoffs. The more things change, the more they remain the same. ING Pathetic. __________________ "The CHIEFS, HAVE THEIR DYNASTY!"** Last edited by TEX; 03-31-2014 at 07:39 AM..
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