Tonight - Texans @ Patriots

[Mile High Mania]

OK, so the Pats are 2-0 and now down to their 3rd QB. Can they pull off the victory? Does Houston really go to 3-0?

I have no idea what to make of this game. And, I have to think that some of the issues at QB and the early matchups are the reason why ratings are down.

I'm pretty sure we want NE to lose, we don't need them undefeated when Brady returns - as if it really matters for them in that division.

[In58men]

I heard Gronk should be playing tonight. I have a feeling Blount is going to have a day.

[Easy 6]

Both of these teams can get bent, I'm going fishing tonight

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Both of these teams can get bent, I'm going fishing tonight

To soon?

[BleedingRed]

Texans by 14

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

To soon?

Its always too soon for the patriots, and the texans need to just fade off into the farthest reaches of my mind

[DaFace]

I think the Texans will take it, but if not, my perception of Belichick will definitely improve even more. I've always been a "What's Belichick without Brady?" guy, but you can't deny that he's done just fine with shitty backup QBs too.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I think the Texans will take it, but if not, my perception of Belichick will definitely improve even more. I've always been a "What's Belichick without Brady?" guy, but you can't deny that he's done just fine with shitty backup QBs too.

Every great coach, without fail, has had great talent, and more often than not, at the QB position. Do you downgrade Shula because he had Unitas, Griese, Csonka, Marino? Walsh because he had Montana? Paul Brown because he had Jim Brown and Otto Graham?

I think Belichick winning four Super Bowls, and going to six, with an ENTIRELY different team around Brady, is enough to prove his greatness. Sure, Brady is great, but is he really FIVE more SB appearances than Marino great, when Marino had Shula? TWO MORE SB WINS greater than Peyton?

It doesn't take away from Brady's greatness to recognize Belichick is great. It also doesn't take away from Belichick's greatness to recognize Brady is great.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Every great coach, without fail, has had great talent, and more often than not, at the QB position. Do you downgrade Shula because he had Unitas, Griese, Csonka, Marino? Walsh because he had Montana? Paul Brown because he had Jim Brown and Otto Graham?

I think Belichick winning four Super Bowls, and going to six, with an ENTIRELY different team around Brady, is enough to prove his greatness. Sure, Brady is great, but is he really FIVE more SB appearances than Marino great, when Marino had Shula? TWO MORE SB WINS greater than Peyton?

It doesn't take away from Brady's greatness to recognize Belichick is great. It also doesn't take away from Belichick's greatness to recognize Brady is great.

I think I speak for us all when I say to you "SHUT THE **** UP" Go slob on
Bill and Gay boy on another board.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

I think I speak for us all when I say to you "SHUT THE **** UP" Go slob on
Bill and Gay boy on another board.

Thank you for sharing your opinion with me. I truly care deeply about what you think and your thoughts on all matters, including my participation on this board.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Every great coach, without fail, has had great talent, and more often than not, at the QB position. Do you downgrade Shula because he had Unitas, Griese, Csonka, Marino? Walsh because he had Montana? Paul Brown because he had Jim Brown and Otto Graham?

I think Belichick winning four Super Bowls, and going to six, with an ENTIRELY different team around Brady, is enough to prove his greatness. Sure, Brady is great, but is he really FIVE more SB appearances than Marino great, when Marino had Shula? TWO MORE SB WINS greater than Peyton?

It doesn't take away from Brady's greatness to recognize Belichick is great. It also doesn't take away from Belichick's greatness to recognize Brady is great.

I think your user name should be changed to Asterix*

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I think the Texans will take it, but if not, my perception of Belichick will definitely improve even more. I've always been a "What's Belichick without Brady?" guy, but you can't deny that he's done just fine with shitty backup QBs too.

Don't kid yourself. They would have a loss right now except the kick was missed. Brady is more important than Bill. McDaniels is more important than Bill. Go look at the Bill's record with the Browns. 36-44.

Don't give me the Matt argument either. He made the playoffs with us as well with the easy schedule he had there and here.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Don't kid yourself. They would have a loss right now except the kick was missed. Brady is more important than Bill. McDaniels is more important than Bill. Go look at the Bill's record with the Browns. 36-44.

Don't give me the Matt argument either. He made the playoffs with us as well with the easy schedule he had there and here.

You are truly a genious. With a win tonight, Belichick will tie Curly Lambeau with the fourth-most wins in NFL coaching history. Meanwhile, EVERY Poll over the last ten or so years ranks Belichick #1 in terms of NFL head coach rankings -- even a poll of NFL head coaches and GMs.

Just a few examples:

ESPN's Mike Sando surveyed eight current general managers, four former GMs, four personnel directors, four executives, six coordinators and four position coaches for the ranking. Sando asked them to rate every coach on a scale of 1 to 5, with 1 being the best.

According to the survey, the best coach in the NFL is a former Browns coach, Bill Belichick of the New England Patriots. Belichick had a 1.07 average. Voters cited his three championships and 11 consecutive seasons with double-digit victories.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/inde...ettine_10.html



http://www.nj.com/super-bowl/index.s...l_history.html

1) Bill Belichick, New England Patriots
This should come as no surprise, given what Belichick has accomplished in his 16 years with the Patriots. What is most daunting, at least in terms of other coaches trying to match Belichick's legacy: New England's remarkable accomplishment of making 10 conference title games in the past 15 years. Only Tom Landry has equaled that kind of run. No other head coach has led his team to six Super Bowl appearances -- or five, for that matter, if we're condensing this to coaches who've been active in the past two decades. That's impressive.

http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000671714

1. Bill Belichick
Career Record: 223-113 (.664)
With The Patriots Since: 2000
Last Year’s Ranking: 1

The greatest coach of all time isn’t just riding on his reputation in the top spot. Bill Belichick, who is 187-69 (.730) over 16 years in New England, has won at least 12 games each of the past six seasons. To put that in perspective, Bill Parcells oversaw four 12-win campaigns. Bill Walsh, three. The Cleveland Browns have one 12-win season since joining the NFL in 1950. Belichick’s run of success isn’t just historic, it’s completely without peer or precedent.

The Patriots couldn’t defend their title in 2015, but nevertheless came within three points of the Super Bowl despite having one of the league’s worst offensive lines and running games. Their 2014 defensive MVP, Darrelle Revis, was playing for a divisional rival (who missed the playoffs). The central “argument” against Belichick — besides his “Controversies” section on Wikipedia — has always been that he’s a product of Tom Brady. Any reasonable observer can probably discern that 187-69 wasn’t built on the back of one player, but even unreasonable ones have to admit: Belichick was given the best player of his generation and knew what to do with him. Belichick is alone at the top, and will remain there for however long he continues coaching.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...t-coaches-2016

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Hard to see the Patriots winning this, to be honest. How they do much on offense with a third string, rookie, QB, and presumably without Gronk (I doubt he plays tonight, myself) is a real issue.

Belichick beats the bejesus out of his former assistants. You're fine.

He's going to have Asswiler pissing backwards by half time.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Belichick beats the bejesus out of his former assistants. You're fine.

He's going to have Asswiler pissing backwards by half time.

Besides that, the Chiefs would have won without the fumbles with ****all for a pass rush and no Jamaal