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Old 12-02-2014, 02:01 PM   Topic Starter
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Big XII is run by unscrupulous fools

Baylor and TCU might be co-champs, despite Baylor winning head-to-head

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But as it currently sits, if No. 7 Baylor beats Kansas State Saturday, they would be conference's champions because Baylor beat TCU earlier this season. Because as everyone knows, in absence of a championship game, league winners are always decided first by conference record and second by head-to-head outcomes should teams have the same record. But since Baylor is rated lower than TCU, and therefore less likely to make the final four to get into the playoff, the conference will award "co-champions" so that the committee can choose which Big 12 team they think is better.

Only if TCU and Baylor are both left out of the top four would the league acknowledge Baylor's head-to-head win over TCU.

In other words the conference is saying: If TCU is rated in the top four, we'll forget Baylor beat them. But if TCU and Baylor fail to make the top four, we'll remember Baylor beat them.
Read full article: http://deadspin.com/big-12-announces...ons-1665741360

Edited to appease KC native because it's a huge deal and will improve the direction of discourse henceforth.

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Old 12-02-2014, 02:06 PM   #2
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Old 12-02-2014, 02:07 PM   #3
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Old 12-02-2014, 05:49 PM   #4
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Old 12-02-2014, 02:36 PM   #6
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That article from November 9 does not help the Big XII. I think you get it, but your subsequent posts seem to be defending the idea.

Nov 9 article: Big XII would submit Baylor as the champion
Dec 1 article: Big XII will submit co-champions
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Old 12-02-2014, 02:55 PM   #7
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That article from November 9 does not help the Big XII. I think you get it, but your subsequent posts seem to be defending the idea.

Nov 9 article: Big XII would submit Baylor as the champion
Dec 1 article: Big XII will submit co-champions
I am aware they have changed their tune (if the Nov 9 article was accruate). I am also aware this is not the first time the Big 12 has named co-champions.
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Old 12-02-2014, 03:10 PM   #8
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I am aware they have changed their tune (if the Nov 9 article was accruate). I am also aware this is not the first time the Big 12 has named co-champions.
I don't see how that justifies them doing it this time, especially in the context of the looming playoff selection.

Just answer this: Why don't they give it to Baylor? Baylor won the head-to-head.
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Old 12-02-2014, 03:13 PM   #9
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I don't see how that justifies them doing it this time, especially in the context of the looming playoff selection.

Just answer this: Why don't they give it to Baylor? Baylor won the head-to-head.
Because if they just gave it to Baylor then they would be altering their rules.

FFS this isn't hard.
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I don't see how that justifies them doing it this time, especially in the context of the looming playoff selection.

Just answer this: Why don't they give it to Baylor? Baylor won the head-to-head.
because they believe having TCU in the playoff consideration in addition to Baylor benefits the conference. Which I think makes sense, as much as it sucks for Baylor (but who gives a **** about Baylor)
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I don't see how that justifies them doing it this time, especially in the context of the looming playoff selection.

Just answer this: Why don't they give it to Baylor? Baylor won the head-to-head.
Because their "one true champion" rules allow for co-champions.
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Old 12-02-2014, 02:08 PM   #12
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Terrible deadspin article is terrible.
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Old 12-02-2014, 02:32 PM   #13
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Terrible deadspin article is terrible.
Why is it terrible? Seems pretty straightforward to me.


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But please, tell us why this is a terrible article. The Big XII is altering its rules in order to benefit its schools. Why not just crown Baylor as the champion?
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Old 12-02-2014, 02:35 PM   #14
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Why is it terrible? Seems pretty straightforward to me.


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But please, tell us why this is a terrible article. The Big XII is altering its rules in order to benefit its schools. Why not just crown Baylor as the champion?
there's nothing being altered here....they've done this before.
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