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Old 10-17-2017, 08:54 PM   Topic Starter
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NFL endorses criminal-justice reform bill in the midst of anthem debate

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NFL endorses criminal-justice reform bill in the midst of anthem debate

By Karoun Demirjian and Beth Reinhard
The Washington Post
October 16



The National Football League, still in political crosshairs over whether players should take a knee during the national anthem, is throwing its weight behind another cause in Washington’s debate over racial inequality: criminal justice reform.

The NFL’s spokesman said on Monday that the league has decided to endorse a bipartisan bill to reduce mandatory minimum sentences for low-level drug offenders, eliminate “three-strike” provisions that require life sentences and give judges more latitude to reduce sentences for certain low-level crimes.

“We felt that this was an issue over the last months, as we have continued to work with our players on issues of equality and on issues of criminal justice reform, that was surfaced for us, and we thought it was appropriate to lend our support to it,” NFL spokesman Joe Lockhart said Monday during a conference call with reporters.

The owners appear to be seeking middle ground between football players and their critics during a heated national debate over the growing phenomenon of players kneeling during the national anthem to protest police brutality and racial inequality. It is not clear what effect the NFL’s effort will have on that debate — or on President Trump, who has fueled much of the vitriol against kneeling players through his personal and official Twitter accounts.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.1f86c6a1bf32
So, hoping to curry favor with the players who are kneeling, the NFL is endorsing a piece of soft-on-crime legislation. The optics of that are amusing.

Goodell's winking and nodding at the kneeling players will probably just encourage them to take it further, not make them respect the country again. The NFL will not be better off for bowing to them. Look at Mizzou.

The NFL doesn't seem to understand what's happening here at all. Fans do not want the NFL to be political. Fans are not going to be amused by Roger Goodell wading into politics. ESPN has already made this mistake by becoming another politicized media outlet... it's fascinating that Goodell thinks the way to resolve the fan ire over this conflict is to make the NFL more political.
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:55 PM   #2
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Why would you get butt hurt over this? Because nothing says "hard on crime" and justice like giving some mother****er life for peddling weed? You concerned about a crime wave by getting rid of 3-strikes laws?

This polls up there with shit like, "is pediatric brain cancer bad?"
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Old 10-17-2017, 09:03 PM   #4
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Why would you get butt hurt over this? Because nothing says "hard on crime" and justice like giving some mother****er life for peddling weed? You concerned about a crime wave by getting rid of 3-strikes laws?

This polls up there with shit like, "is pediatric brain cancer bad?"
Hey, ignorant irritant, these laws WERE PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE BLACK COMMUNITY!

Voted into place by black and white politicians to end the crack/meth/heroin epidemic...
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Hey, ignorant irritant, these laws WERE PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE BLACK COMMUNITY!

Voted into place by black and white politicians to end the crack/meth/heroin epidemic...
Yeah, that's really not what happened, but this debate would be best continued in DC.

And you shouldn't call anyone ignorant given your functional capacity.
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Yeah, that's really not what happened...
Yes, it is.

In fact, there was a huge black lobby in the 90's to crack down on CRACK.

You might not have been around then, but I was...
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Old 10-17-2017, 09:09 PM   #7
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Hey, ignorant irritant, these laws WERE PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE BLACK COMMUNITY!

Voted into place by black and white politicians to end the crack/meth/heroin epidemic...

Try reading this.
https://www.theatlantic.com/projects...incarceration/
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Or try reading what was said on the house floor by victims of drug crime.

When these laws were passed.

I'm sure you can google that as well...
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Or try reading what was said on the house floor by victims of drug crime.

When these laws were passed.

I'm sure you can google that as well...
You do realize that victims of drug crime are not synonymous with those caught possessing drugs, correct?
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Or try reading what was said on the house floor by victims of drug crime.

When these laws were passed.

I'm sure you can google that as well...
I would rather not listen to people who learned absolutely nothing from the complete failure of alcohol prohibition.
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Or try reading what was said on the house floor by victims of drug crime.

When these laws were passed.

I'm sure you can google that as well...

First of all, it's a seminal work on the incarceration epidemic by an important writer... I thought you might...I dunno... maybe? Want to read it so you don't sound like a complete moron at all times. But alas... finish your Ripple and turn up Tucker Carlson you ****ing dimwit.
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Fantastic breakdown, Thanks!

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Fantastic breakdown, best 15 minutes I have spent reading on this forum in the entire time I've been a member on this board. Thank you! the systemic suppression of voting in black communities added to it and you have the 360 degree ass kicking on the success and psyche of the African American families in todays america. There is a blatant inequality that exists still today and people who want to say otherwise are simply afraid of what they don't understand. I'm not black, I don't claim to understand what it means to be black in America today, but one does not need to be black to have empathy for this issue. People who see otherwise, I believe, have personal examples that are proof of the systemic results and simply refuse to dig deep enough to understand. Unfortunately judgment without facts is for the lazy, which comprises a large majority of the jaded white racist opinions on these issues. I applaud the nfl for standing by their employees on this issue, ratings be damned. As far as I can tell, black families and all other ethnic backgrounds love their children as much as I love mine, and yet somehow that doesn't seem to mean shit to some people. I saw one of the leaders of the black panthers speak when I was in college, the black panthers demands centered around the opportunities for their children to have decent food, education, and opportunity. The same damn thing any white family wants.
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Why would you get butt hurt over this? Because nothing says "hard on crime" and justice like giving some mother****er life for peddling weed? You concerned about a crime wave by getting rid of 3-strikes laws?

This polls up there with shit like, "is pediatric brain cancer bad?"
Link for the 1st time weed offender who serving life for having a dime bag. Or GTFO...
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