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Old 05-08-2015, 08:30 AM   Topic Starter
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Apologies if posted before, and maybe this ought to be in the DC section.

Washington Post reports that the Federal Military has paid millions to the NFL to "salute" veterans. The Clarks took $250,000. So much for the NFL saluting soldiers out of the goodness of their hearts.

The Chiefs don't need the money. They should send that cash back to the military to buy body armor for active service guys, so we wouldn't have so many "wounded warriors" to salute. This whole thing makes me more cynical than I already am, if that's even possible.

Just salute veterans because its the right thing to do, and pick up the goddamn check. They put their lives on the line for us, it's the least a tax-exempt, multi-billion dollar enterprise like the NFL can do.

I didn't get a harrrump outta that guy......

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During timeouts at home games, the New York Jets air a Hometown Heroes segment in which a U.S. soldier or two are shown on the Jumbotron and everyone thanks them for their service. The soldiers and three friends get seats in the Coaches Club. It’s a nice salute.

It’s also funded by U.S. taxpayers.

According to Christopher Baxter and Jonathan D. Salant of New Jersey Advance Media, the Department of Defense paid 14 NFL teams $5.4 million from 2011 to 2014 for salutes like the Hometown Heroes segment and other advertising at professional football games. All but $100,000 of that money came from the National Guard.

U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) called the spending wasteful and disingenuous, Baxter and Salant report:

“Those of us go to sporting events and see them honoring the heroes,” Flake said in an interview. “You get a good feeling in your heart. Then to find out they’re doing it because they’re compensated for it, it leaves you underwhelmed. It seems a little unseemly.” …

“They realize the public believes they’re doing it as a public service or a sense of patriotism,” Flake said. “It leaves a bad taste in your mouth.”

Flake added that he has no problem with the National Guard spending money on recruitment advertising at football games. “The problem, he said, was spending taxpayer money on a program that, on its face, appeared to be a generous gesture by a football team,” Baxter and Salant write.

The story goes on to detail what the National Guard gets in return for its spending:

Aside from the Hometown Heroes segment, the agreements also included advertising and marketing services, including a kickoff video message from the Guard, digital advertising on stadium screens, online advertising and meeting space for a meeting or events.

Also, soldiers attended the annual kickoff lunch in New York City to meet and take pictures with the players for promotional use, and the Jets allowed soldiers to participate in a charity event in which coaches and players build or rebuild a playground or park.

The Jets also provided game access passes.

A National Guard spokesman said the agreement with the Jets helps promote and increase “the public’s understanding and appreciation of military service in the New Jersey Army National Guard increases the propensity for service in our ranks and garners public support for our Hometown Team.” A Jets spokesman says the team works with the National Guard just as it works with any other sponsor to tailor in-game advertising.

According to the report, the Colts and Ravens are among the other teams that have similar agreements with the National Guard.
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Old 05-08-2015, 08:34 AM   #2
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Old 05-08-2015, 08:40 AM   #3
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Old 05-08-2015, 08:45 AM   #4
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I love my own money more than vets and I am a vet of 23 years.

So who cares.
I've gotta admit, I've always found the idea of saluting vets to be a good one, albeit a huge PR stunt for the team. I mean, I'd like to believe they do it out of the goodness of their hearts and genuine appreciation for vets and their sacrifices, but there's always the "look how much we care" angle that I can't totally shake.

Then to find out that the US government is funding it? Shiiiiit...
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Old 05-08-2015, 08:45 AM   #5
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I love my own money more than vets and I am a vet of 23 years.

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I guess you should. Since you are helping to foot the bill.
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Old 05-08-2015, 08:41 AM   #6
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Old 05-08-2015, 08:45 AM   #7
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I'm not one for military worship. No soldier in my lifetime has ever fought a war for my "freedom"..

Still, a wealthy organization like the Chiefs could certainly afford to salute the veterans without a little kickback. If for nothing else but good PR. American military culture loves them some soldiers.
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Old 05-08-2015, 09:09 AM   #8
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I'm not one for military worship. No soldier in my lifetime has ever fought a war for my "freedom"..

Still, a wealthy organization like the Chiefs could certainly afford to salute the veterans without a little kickback. If for nothing else but good PR. American military culture loves them some soldiers.
A. Maybe so, but they took a stand for your freedom. Joining the military means " hey if shit hits the fan I will die to protect this country. " Regardless of your opinions on recent wars doest change the fact those guys/gals are writing a blank check to us all.

B. I know for a fact that there are many unconventional soldiers who have definitely fought for our safety, you just dont hear about it.

C. I agree the Chiefs should pick up the tab.
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A. Maybe so, but they took a stand for your freedom. Joining the military means " hey if shit hits the fan I will die to protect this country. " Regardless of your opinions on recent wars doest change the fact those guys/gals are writing a blank check to us all.

B. I know for a fact that there are many unconventional soldiers who have definitely fought for our safety, you just dont hear about it.

C. I agree the Chiefs should pick up the tab.
Come on man....you know as well as I do that a good number of people join the military and A isn't even on their minds. It's free school and a guaranteed paycheck nowadays. And that's coming from someone who was in the Air Force.
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Come on man....you know as well as I do that a good number of people join the military and A isn't even on their minds. It's free school and a guaranteed paycheck nowadays. And that's coming from someone who was in the Air Force.
Exactly. Wanted to make this post but didn't want to be too "DC". People these days join the military for the most part because it can help them support familily, get a cheap/free education, or get them away from a bad situation. And there's nothing wrong with that. I just have a problem with the " he joined to fight for the country and protect your freedom!!" Guilt trip that people try to apply to the situation.
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Come on man....you know as well as I do that a good number of people join the military and A isn't even on their minds. It's free school and a guaranteed paycheck nowadays. And that's coming from someone who was in the Air Force.
True, I am not disagreeing with peoples motivations for joining. I am simply saying that regardless of a persons individual reasons, they are still writing a blank check.

I was in the Army. I hated getting any extra attention becasue of it. I personally feel that being in the service is jsut that...a service and you should serve out your time humbily and not require extra attention for what you do. Trust me ive seen plenty of D bags try and play the soldier card. I agree, I was on the streets of Iraq and I was not fighitng for anyones freedom back here in Ameica. If we were however attacked by a conventional force like Russia or China hypothtically then those individuals would be then defending our freedom. This is what I meant by standing for it.
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True, I am not disagreeing with peoples motivations for joining. I am simply saying that regardless of a persons individual reasons, they are still writing a blank check.

I was in the Army. I hated getting any extra attention becasue of it. I personally feel that being in the service is jsut that...a service and you should serve out your time humbily and not require extra attention for what you do. Trust me ive seen plenty of D bags try and play the soldier card. I agree, I was on the streets of Iraq and I was not fighitng for anyones freedom back here in Ameica. If we were however attacked by a conventional force like Russia or China hypothtically then those individuals would be then defending our freedom. This is what I meant by standing for it.
I didn't mean anything by it. I've served and met plenty of people that honestly believed that's what they were there for. It was there life mission to serve the country and do it proudly. I'm cool with both kinds of people, honestly.
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Old 05-08-2015, 09:41 AM   #13
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I was in the Army. I hated getting any extra attention becasue of it. I personally feel that being in the service is jsut that...a service and you should serve out your time humbily and not require extra attention for what you do. Trust me ive seen plenty of D bags try and play the soldier card. I agree, I was on the streets of Iraq and I was not fighitng for anyones freedom back here in Ameica. If we were however attacked by a conventional force like Russia or China hypothtically then those individuals would be then defending our freedom. This is what I meant by standing for it.

You seem pretty level headed so I hope you don't take any offense. I don't mean to disrespect the individuals; my issue is with the institution. But if there's one thing I can't ****ing stand it's a soldier that plays the "I devoted my life to fight for you freedoms" card. On that we can agree.
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True, I am not disagreeing with peoples motivations for joining. I am simply saying that regardless of a persons individual reasons, they are still writing a blank check.

I was in the Army. I hated getting any extra attention becasue of it. I personally feel that being in the service is jsut that...a service and you should serve out your time humbily and not require extra attention for what you do. Trust me ive seen plenty of D bags try and play the soldier card. I agree, I was on the streets of Iraq and I was not fighitng for anyones freedom back here in Ameica. If we were however attacked by a conventional force like Russia or China hypothtically then those individuals would be then defending our freedom. This is what I meant by standing for it.
I'm a Marine from the Desert shield era, no one in my unit was injured or fatalities. Granted it is a far cry from what soldiers are going through today, for what? In most places it is not for our freedom. I don't ever bring it up unless someone asks. I wont even use the VA, yes I served, yet the VA is such a cluster f***, I'm not going to make wounded vet or these older vets wait any longer than they already have to. I wish they would put that money into that broken system.
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A. Maybe so, but they took a stand for your freedom. Joining the military means " hey if shit hits the fan I will die to protect this country. " Regardless of your opinions on recent wars doest change the fact those guys/gals are writing a blank check to us all.



B. I know for a fact that there are many unconventional soldiers who have definitely fought for our safety, you just dont hear about it.



C. I agree the Chiefs should pick up the tab.

American soldiers in my lifetime are fighting over resources.

If shit truly hit the fan and our country went to war legitimately for our freedom I'd fight as well. No ones patting me on the back for it.
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