Terez Paylor mock draft

[the Talking Can]

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...le8872781.html

18 Chiefs

ILB Eric Kendricks, 6-0, 230, UCLA

The Chiefs probably wouldn’t mind scooping up any of the top three receivers — Cooper, White and Parker — or even Scherff, who figures to be a plug-and-play left guard. But all those guys are off the board here, and the widely-acknowledged first-round alternatives at those positions — Dorial Green-Beckham, Devin Funchess and Jaelen Strong at receiver and T.J. Clemmings, Ereck Flowers and Cedric Ogbuehi at offensive line — have question marks (for now).

But if the Chiefs address those positions with veterans in free agency, which might be the best option, given coach Andy Reid’s complicated playbook, that would allow general manager John Dorsey to take the best player at a position of need. Lanky Michigan State cornerback Trae Waynes could be tempting, particularly with veteran Sean Smith set to hit free agency in a year, but inside linebacker is a bigger need right now, particularly if they fail to address it in free agency. Even if Derrick Johnson, 32, returns to his pre-injury form, this unit is in desperate need of young talent, and the best player on the board at this position is Kendricks, who a bonafide tackling machine who racked up a ridiculous 145 tackles in only 13 games this season.

Kendricks is not very big, so long-term durability is a concern, but his plus instincts, quickness and passion for the game would allow the two-time UCLA captain to be a plug-and-play, three-down weakside inside linebacker who can immediately help a leaky run defense. As long as Kendricks’ medical checks out, it would be a surprise if he lasts until the Chiefs’ pick in the second round.

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[Saccopoo]

**** that.

[Bowser]

Not saying that Mike Backer isn't a need for this team, but WTF?

[BigCatDaddy]

I like it. Better than pissing away a pick on a WR that won't be thrown to. We need a dominant D.

[DaneMcCloud]

Awesome. The ILB position was the weakest link on the defense last year. DJ is 32 years old coming off an Achilles tear and while Mauga was serviceable, JMJ and Mays were not.

This guy could be the next DJ and anchor the spot for 10 years.

[Saccopoo]

This dude is not the next DJ.

He's not that fast.

He's not that big.

He's the ultimate try hard type of player who racked up a lot of tackles.

He's an instinctive player without any of the intangibles to project him as anything more than a special teams guy. His upside in the NFL is very limited IMO.

He doesn't shed linemen very well and he doesn't have the size or strength to take them on. He doesn't make very many impact plays (ints, forced fumbles, etc.) and tends to piggy back his D linemen when getting to a play.

I wouldn't take before the fifth round. If then.

Guys like Zach Vigil or Terrance Plummer have all of the instincts that Kendricks has plus they are 6'2", 240 lb and play faster.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

This dude is not the next DJ.

He's not that fast.

He's not that big.

He's the ultimate try hard type of player who racked up a lot of tackles.

He's an instinctive player without any of the intangibles to project him as anything more than a special teams guy. His upside in the NFL is very limited IMO.

He doesn't shed linemen very well and he doesn't have the size or strength to take them on. He doesn't make very many impact plays (ints, forced fumbles, etc.) and tends to piggy back his D linemen when getting to a play.

I wouldn't take before the fifth round. If then.

Guys like Zach Vigil or Terrance Plummer have all of the instincts that Kendricks has plus they are 6'2", 240 lb and play faster.

This seals it: The guy is destined for the Hall of Fame.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

This dude is not the next DJ.

He's not that fast.

He's not that big.

He's the ultimate try hard type of player who racked up a lot of tackles.

He's an instinctive player without any of the intangibles to project him as anything more than a special teams guy. His upside in the NFL is very limited IMO.

He doesn't shed linemen very well and he doesn't have the size or strength to take them on. He doesn't make very many impact plays (ints, forced fumbles, etc.) and tends to piggy back his D linemen when getting to a play.

I wouldn't take before the fifth round. If then.

Guys like Zach Vigil or Terrance Plummer have all of the instincts that Kendricks has plus they are 6'2", 240 lb and play faster.

Zach Vigil inside in a 3-4? Maybe as a WILL, but not a chance as the MIKE. Doesn't move well enough. He isn't that fast and didn't play against much. I like him, don't get me wrong, but he's not Kendricks. Probably be best as a SAM in a 4-3.

I do agree with you about Kendricks. I wouldn't take him in round 1. Hell, I might not take him in round 2. I've seen MUCH better linebackers than him not go until round 2. I'd take Paul Dawson before Kendricks.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Zach Vigil inside in a 3-4? Maybe as a WILL, but not a chance as the MIKE. Doesn't move well enough. He isn't that fast and didn't play against much. I like him, don't get me wrong, but he's not Kendricks. Probably be best as a SAM in a 4-3.

I do agree with you about Kendricks. I wouldn't take him in round 1. Hell, I might not take him in round 2. I've seen MUCH better linebackers than him not go until round 2. I'd take Paul Dawson before Kendricks.

Here he is destroying USC's offensive line and wreaking havoc in the backfield. Dude plays very fast and instinctive.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

This dude is not the next DJ.

He's not that fast.

He's not that big.

He's the ultimate try hard type of player who racked up a lot of tackles.

He's an instinctive player without any of the intangibles to project him as anything more than a special teams guy. His upside in the NFL is very limited IMO.

He doesn't shed linemen very well and he doesn't have the size or strength to take them on. He doesn't make very many impact plays (ints, forced fumbles, etc.) and tends to piggy back his D linemen when getting to a play.

I wouldn't take before the fifth round. If then.

Guys like Zach Vigil or Terrance Plummer have all of the instincts that Kendricks has plus they are 6'2", 240 lb and play faster.

I don't trust Dorsey to find DJ's replacement in the middle rounds and later, do you?

Thus far he hasn't drafted a single damn good LB, inside or outside.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by SNR

I don't trust Dorsey to find DJ's replacement in the middle rounds and later, do you?

Thus far he hasn't drafted a single damn good LB, inside or outside.

Because 2 drafts really gives a lot of experience to draw from.
He has drafted Nico Johnson in the 4th and Dee Ford.
YOU just don't trust or want to trust Dorsey.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by SNR

I don't trust Dorsey to find DJ's replacement in the middle rounds and later, do you?

Thus far he hasn't drafted a single damn good LB, inside or outside.

I think it's a combination of the evolution of Sutton's defense and getting the right guy in for the task as determined by Dorsey, his scouts and the coaching staff.

Nico Johnson was a two-down type of guy and it looks like Sutton is rapidly moving away from that in terms of lining up a prototypical 34 defense. He's employing a version of the Dick Bumpas TCU 425 more than anything at this point.

Guys like Derrick Johnson are ideal for that at the NFL level - long, rangy dudes with a little size. It's why I thought that Kyle Van Noy in the 2014 Draft would have been ideal for the other inside spot.

Depending on how he tests at the Combine/Pro Day, a guy like Mississippi State's Benardrick McKinney wouldn't be a shocker as our first round pick.

Eric Kendricks isn't going to test as well as his brother did and his size doesn't do him any favors. He's not a long guy - more compact at his size, which isn't much. They'll hope to compare him to someone like Bobby Wagner, but he's not as thick as Wagner, doesn't shed blocks like Wagner and most definitely won't have the measurables that Wagner did. And Wagner went in the later part of the second round. After the Combine, I'll be surprised if Kendricks goes before the fourth round.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I think it's a combination of the evolution of Sutton's defense and getting the right guy in for the task as determined by Dorsey, his scouts and the coaching staff.

Nico Johnson was a two-down type of guy and it looks like Sutton is rapidly moving away from that in terms of lining up a prototypical 34 defense. He's employing a version of the Dick Bumpas TCU 425 more than anything at this point.

Guys like Derrick Johnson are ideal for that at the NFL level - long, rangy dudes with a little size. It's why I thought that Kyle Van Noy in the 2014 Draft would have been ideal for the other inside spot.

Depending on how he tests at the Combine/Pro Day, a guy like Mississippi State's Benardrick McKinney wouldn't be a shocker as our first round pick.

Eric Kendricks isn't going to test as well as his brother did and his size doesn't do him any favors. He's not a long guy - more compact at his size, which isn't much. They'll hope to compare him to someone like Bobby Wagner, but he's not as thick as Wagner, doesn't shed blocks like Wagner and most definitely won't have the measurables that Wagner did. And Wagner went in the later part of the second round. After the Combine, I'll be surprised if Kendricks goes before the fourth round.

I will mail a flaming bag of anthrax to Dorsey's house if he drafts McKinney in the 1st round

[Gino-Bartali]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I think it's a combination of the evolution of Sutton's defense and getting the right guy in for the task as determined by Dorsey, his scouts and the coaching staff.

Nico Johnson was a two-down type of guy and it looks like Sutton is rapidly moving away from that in terms of lining up a prototypical 34 defense. He's employing a version of the Dick Bumpas TCU 425 more than anything at this point.

Guys like Derrick Johnson are ideal for that at the NFL level - long, rangy dudes with a little size. It's why I thought that Kyle Van Noy in the 2014 Draft would have been ideal for the other inside spot.

Depending on how he tests at the Combine/Pro Day, a guy like Mississippi State's Benardrick McKinney wouldn't be a shocker as our first round pick.

Eric Kendricks isn't going to test as well as his brother did and his size doesn't do him any favors. He's not a long guy - more compact at his size, which isn't much. They'll hope to compare him to someone like Bobby Wagner, but he's not as thick as Wagner, doesn't shed blocks like Wagner and most definitely won't have the measurables that Wagner did. And Wagner went in the later part of the second round. After the Combine, I'll be surprised if Kendricks goes before the fourth round.

Mckinney is a two-down thumper.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Gino-Bartali

Mckinney is a two-down thumper.

Absolutely disagree.