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Joe Satriani Sues Coldplay for Plagiarism
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/160...coldplay.jhtml
Dec 5 2008 9:27 AM EST Coldplay Sued By Joe Satriani For Allegedly Plagiarizing 'Viva La Vida' Melody Guitarist claims the Grammy-nominated song is a rip-off of his track 'If I Could Fly.' By Gil Kaufman Not long after Coldplay's Viva la Vida album hit shelves this summer, the blogosphere exploded with suggestions that the title track bore a striking resemblance to a 2004 instrumental track by rock guitarist Joe Satriani titled "If I Could Fly." Now, Satriani has accused the band of copyright infringement in a lawsuit filed on Thursday in Los Angeles federal court, according to a Reuters report. A day after the Coldplay album was nominated for seven Grammys, including Record and Song of the Year for "Viva la Vida," Satriani's suit claims that "Viva" incorporates "substantial original portions" of his track "If I Could Fly," from the Is There Love in Space? album. |
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12-07-2008, 01:51 AM | #94 |
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Says the guy posting along with me (sort of destroys that nothing better to do sledge) at what, 11:50 on a saturday night? You really are a superstar, aren't you?
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James and Lars; can the suckage grow to even greater heights? Is there truly no bottom to the levels of suckage and uselessness that these two turd-whackers can continue to peddle as "music"? Will Metallica one day be the best-selling elevator music ever pumped in to the Assisted Living Center? Discuss.
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12-07-2008, 06:05 AM | #97 | |
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It's pretty clear that you and I aren't even having the same discussion, if you're merely trying to venture a guess as to who will win in court, then you're probably right. You seem to know more about the law. I've never even read the law, and I'm not trying to guess as to what will happen. What I'm trying to do is go back and look at exactly WHAT is similar between the two songs. 1. They have the same chord progression. 2. Both songs use the same 3 note melody as a hook. --------------------------------- Edit: I feel bad for going on the attack --------------------------------- I'd still like to point out that the tempo of the two songs as they were recorded are NOT the same. The "mashup" that has been posted on youtube used programs to speed up Satriani's song and slow down Coldplay's song so that they would match. Last edited by mcan; 12-07-2008 at 07:27 PM.. |
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If they didn't have a case, why would they have settled? That doesn't make any sense. If they could have won, they would have.
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So essentially in your world, the person who created the unique melody wouldn't be protected by law. And intellectual property would have no value. No thanks. |
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I don't think that the melody has been "stolen" enough to prove that there was any intent to steal. Those first three notes are blatantly and obviously the same. That's what Joe's suing for. I just think that's a bit too stringent of a law, and it does all songwriters everywhere a disservice. How many notes in a row are too many. Two notes in a row can't be the line, or else every single interval would already be copywritten. I think the standard for accusing somebody of stealing should be set way higher. Maybe 5 or 7 identical notes in a row. And probably a lot higher than that if the song is in a straight and common key or if the melody consists entirely of rest tones of the chord. There's just no way that a musician can still be a decent artist and bear the burden of knowing every single possibly combination of 3 notes that's been used by every previous musician that's come before him. |
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I call Artist Importance Priority:
Satriani is a virtuoso and composer. Coldplay is a quirky, snooze-fest band that for some reason have garnered a rep as something akin to Pink Floyd. Judgement: PLAINTIFF.
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