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Old 10-24-2018, 10:02 AM  
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Jon Gruden is losing the locker room

https://deadspin.com/and-now-jon-gru...oom-1829967182

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Alert, alert, this is not a drill: Jon Gruden’s redness is about to reach dangerous levels. Be prepared for sudden shifts in hue, and please do not look directly at him.

This warning comes in the wake of this piece in The Athletic, in which multiple anonymous Raiders express their dismay not only at Gruden’s handling of the roster this season, but at how he’s repeatedly been dishonest about his vision for the team. For example:

“You have to wonder if we haven’t been playing for draft picks all along,” one said. “Despite everything the coaches told us at training camp.”

“The Mack trade was a real stiff jab,” another said. “But the Cooper one was like a knockout punch, especially because we had just walked back in the door from the bye. We didn’t want to believe it was coming, and Coach said we weren’t going to trade him.”

This is remarkable insofar as this type of overt second-guessing rarely happens in the NFL, even anonymously, and usually not in the first season of a head coach’s tenure. It typically takes years of incompetence and sub-.500 records for players to start grousing about the people in charge. It only took Gruden seven weeks to get here! The man is incredible.

There are plenty of other spicy quotes in The Athletic’s piece, including one player admitting that a lot of guys are basically just waiting around for the season to end because they assume they’ll be jettisoned before next year. What a great sendoff the fans in Oakland are getting.
lmao. this is very funny, to me
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:07 AM   #2
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Laugh now but they are loaded with draft picks for their new stadium in Los Vegas



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Old 10-24-2018, 10:08 AM   #3
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I'm fine with them having a bunch of picks if Gruden is the one making them. Next year he'll take a kicker, a punter, and a fullback in the 1st round
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:08 AM   #4
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I didn't know he had them. I'm loving every second of the Gruden era part deux.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:10 AM   #5
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Even if they’re decent picks, are they gonna be Mack or Cooper level players?

Doubt it under Gruden’s guidance.

That franchise is doomed.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:10 AM   #6
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A couple of easy wins at the end of the season will be nice.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:11 AM   #7
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:11 AM   #8
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The best part is we haven't even played them yet. Just go ahead and chalk up 2 more wins for us. Mahomes might throw 8 tds per game.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:12 AM   #9
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He's got enough picks to replace them all. Next year he will be starting over. New QB and all.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:12 AM   #10
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The best part is we haven't even played them yet. Just go ahead and chalk up 2 more wins for us. Mahomes might throw 8 tds per game.
That should be the primary goal for those games. Shatter some TD recordS!!!
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:15 AM   #11
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You know, maybe he is, but even if he is, so what? What the hell have any of those guys won? I know situation matters and all and coaching etc, but **** man, they had 1 winning season in what, the last 20?

It's a complete rebuild. Do it right.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:16 AM   #13
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I hope Chucky whiffs on all of these draft picks he's accumulating, gets fired in 5 yrs after none of them work out, Vegas stadium is only 1/2 full...and the Raiders franchise is set back another decade.

God damn that would be funny.

In meantime, Denver continues to look for their QBOTF while their defense remains just a shell of it's former self, and LAC move on from Rivers, setting that team back 5yrs or more.

Chiefs gonna own this division w/ Mahomes an Co. for a long time. Brady and BigBen are long in the tooth as well...Good time to be a Chiefs fan.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:18 AM   #14
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I hope Chucky whiffs on all of these draft picks he's accumulating, gets fired in 5 yrs after none of them work out, Vegas stadium is only 1/2 full...and the Raiders franchise is set back another decade.

God damn that would be funny.

In meantime, Denver continues to look for their QBOTF while their defense remains just a shell of it's former self, and LAC move on from Rivers, setting that team back 5yrs or more.

Chiefs gonna own this division w/ Mahomes an Co. for a long time. Brady and BigBen are long in the tooth as well...Good time to be a Chiefs fan.
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They have a lot of cap space and with 3 first rounders, I'd try and flip a first for a player already on a contract.

Would you flip a first for ODell and that contract to bring him to Vegas?
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