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Old 06-21-2017, 01:56 PM  
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Biggest FA or Draft bust?
I follow the Chiefs, Orioles, NY Rangers, and Celtics. IMO, the biggest bust for each are:

Chiefs - Blackledge. But there have been some bad ones. Cassel. Bell. Saivii. Dorsey. Sims. Williams. Hill. To name a few.
Orioles - Glenn Davis. Adam Loewan.
NY Rangers - Kovalev. Drury. Lindros. Jagr.
Celtics - Len Bias.

What you got?
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:07 PM   #2
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:09 PM   #3
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:09 PM   #4
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Lew Bush always springs to mind to me as a colossal free agency bust. He had a good reputation in San Diego, and then he came to Kansas City and I'm almost positive that I would have been more productive. That had to be a coaching or system issue unless his plane to KC ran into a big cloud of ineptness.

His free agency twin, of course, is Kendrell Bell. I swear that he somehow got 3 inches shorter and 50 pounds later on the flight to Kansas City. I'd see him on the field and he looked like a dwarf.
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I follow the Chiefs, Orioles, NY Rangers, and Celtics. IMO, the biggest bust for each are:

Chiefs - Blackledge. But there have been some bad ones. Cassel. Bell. Saivii. Dorsey. Sims. Williams. Hill. To name a few.
Orioles - Glenn Davis. Adam Loewan.
NY Rangers - Kovalev. Drury. Lindros. Jagr.
Celtics - Len Bias.

What you got?
How do you leave off Trezell Jenkins & Sims?
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:20 PM   #9
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I follow the Chiefs, Orioles, NY Rangers, and Celtics. IMO, the biggest bust for each are:

Chiefs - Blackledge. But there have been some bad ones. Cassel. Bell. Saivii. Dorsey. Sims. Williams. Hill. To name a few.
Orioles - Glenn Davis. Adam Loewan.
NY Rangers - Kovalev. Drury. Lindros. Jagr.
Celtics - Len Bias.

What you got?
Not a bust. Tragedy, yes. Bust, no.
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Not a bust. Tragedy, yes. Bust, no.
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How do you leave off Trezell Jenkins & Sims?
Trezelle Jenkins jumped out at me, but I have a clarifying question.

Is a draft bust based solely on draft position, or is it also based on expectations? Maybe it's only the position, but I think everyone looked quizzically at the Trezelle pick when it happened. It wasn't like Ryan Sims where the consensus among everyone was that he was a good pick. So is Jenkins really a bust, or did we all kind of just hope for the best but didn't expect it?
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His free agency twin, of course, is Kendrell Bell. I swear that he somehow got 3 inches shorter and 50 pounds later on the flight to Kansas City. I'd see him on the field and he looked like a dwarf.
Bell was the first one that I thought of. Gunther was so excited to get him and his whole time here was a huge disappointment.

Vonnie Holliday was another one. I was excited when KC signed him. He had three sacks his first game with the Chiefs, if I remember correctly, and nothing after that. He just disappeared for the rest of his time in KC.

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Trezelle Jenkins jumped out at me, but I have a clarifying question.

Is a draft bust based solely on draft position, or is it also based on expectations? Maybe it's only the position, but I think everyone looked quizzically at the Trezelle pick when it happened. It wasn't like Ryan Sims where the consensus among everyone was that he was a good pick. So is Jenkins really a bust, or did we all kind of just hope for the best but didn't expect it?
Good question. In my eyes, it's draft position. If Mahomes doesn't turn out to be above average (Alex Smith) he'll be considered a bust based on draft position, no?
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