So who got the better QB, K.C. or Denver?

Kclee · 05-02-2006, 10:18 AM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ted/index.html

Yep, last year's overrated/underrated column was right on. Darren Sproles underrated? Check. Fabian Washington overrated? Check. In fact I bet this is another congratulatory call coming in now... Oh crap, it's Bears coach Lovie Smith. "You know I'm never going to let you live down that Tommie Harris/overrated bit two years ago."

Yeah, yeah, I know. Eli Manning still calls to taunt me every two weeks as well. What can I say, some years pan out better than others.

But I've got a good feeling about 2006.

Quarterback
Overrated: Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt
Let me start by saying I do think the pride of the Commodores could well be a solid NFL quarterback. Considering he spent much of his career running from unblocked pass-rushers and throwing to third-rate SEC receivers (until last season, when freshman stud Earl Bennett came on the scene), Cutler's accomplishments at Vandy -- 3,073 yards, 21 touchdowns and nine interceptions as a senior -- were nothing short of remarkable. But the mere fact that many among the NFL cognoscenti are even thinking about taking Cutler ahead of the most dangerous quarterback to come through the college ranks in years (hint: rhymes with "rinse tongue") makes Cutler overrated -- and raises serious questions about how some of these scouts themselves would perform on the Wonderlic.

Underrated: Brodie Croyle, Alabama
Considering how much emphasis the NFL puts on arm strength, you'd think they'd be falling all over themselves for this guy. Croyle has a gun (just ask the Florida secondary). His mechanics are impeccable and his natural leadership abilities had a great deal to do with the Tide jumping out to a 9-0 start last season. I'm sure his substantial injury history (he underwent shoulder and ACL surgeries while in Tuscaloosa) is helping to knock him down the pecking order, but the fifth-year senior was a picture of health last season when he completed nearly 60 percent of his passes for 2,499 yards, 14 touchdowns and just four interceptions. This, despite the fact he played behind a horrendous offensive line that allowed 39 sacks and had to work with a largely unreliable receiving corps after Tyrone Prothro went down with a broken leg.

**CosmicPal** · 05-02-2006, 10:21 AM

I'll take the guy who shattered Joe Namath's passing history at the same school.

King_Chief_Fan · 05-02-2006, 10:24 AM

Cutler is going to be great.....as long as he isn't be tutored by Plummer.

Croyle has a great chance of being great, because he is going to be tutored by Green.

htismaqe · 05-02-2006, 10:25 AM

Cutler has far more upside. He was also the 11th pick overall, a pick they traded up for.

I'll take Croyle.

Archie Bunker · 05-02-2006, 10:26 AM

I say this with homer glasses off, in 3 years Croyle will be the better QB of the 2. Croyle has the better arm and makes better decisions. If he bulks up a little bit and Shea coaches him up the sky is the limit.

**CosmicPal** · 05-02-2006, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Cutler has far more upside. He was also the 11th pick overall, a pick they traded up for.

I'll take Croyle.

Huh? That doesn't make any sense: Cutler has far more upside....I'll take Croyle.

You want the lesser of the better?

StcChief · 05-02-2006, 10:29 AM

Croyle (no homer glasses) look like better upside if injury
don't derail him.

**RealSNR** · 05-02-2006, 10:31 AM

5th-year senior?

Anyone know his wonderlic score by any chance?

**DaKCMan AP** · 05-02-2006, 10:37 AM

Only time will tell.

In college Cutler had better numbers while Croyle had a better record. Which is more important?

**Bowser** · 05-02-2006, 10:40 AM

Won't know for about three years.

IIRC, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, and Heath Schuler were all pretty badass college players.

Taco John · 05-02-2006, 10:42 AM

This is one of those threads where someone says they are taking off the homer glasses, and then go ahead and pick their own guy for some stupid and arbitrary reason...

Homer contacts don't fool me.

MOhillbilly · 05-02-2006, 10:43 AM

Its nice to have a bona-fide prospect for QBOTF.

Chiefnj · 05-02-2006, 10:50 AM

They both got QB's with good arms who took a beating in college. Denver's QB never suffered a major injury though. Advantage - Bronco's. Except for the huge QB controversy that will erupt after the first Plummer INT of the year.

Archie Bunker · 05-02-2006, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

This is one of those threads where someone says they are taking off the homer glasses, and then go ahead and pick their own guy for some stupid and arbitrary reason...

Homer contacts don't fool me.

Who is your pick Taco?

FAX · 05-02-2006, 10:54 AM

I just got a two for one deal on a new prescription for homer spectacles and I'm seeing better than ever right now.

Time will tell, of course, and I think Cutler is a fine QB. But, we have Brodie. So, I'll vote for him. Why? because winning more than 6 football games a year would be an entirely new experience for the goats' new gridiron leader.

FAX

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Kclee Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Casino cash: $10014147	So who got the better QB, K.C. or Denver? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ted/index.html Yep, last year's overrated/underrated column was right on. Darren Sproles underrated? Check. Fabian Washington overrated? Check. In fact I bet this is another congratulatory call coming in now... Oh crap, it's Bears coach Lovie Smith. "You know I'm never going to let you live down that Tommie Harris/overrated bit two years ago." Yeah, yeah, I know. Eli Manning still calls to taunt me every two weeks as well. What can I say, some years pan out better than others. But I've got a good feeling about 2006. Quarterback Overrated: Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt Let me start by saying I do think the pride of the Commodores could well be a solid NFL quarterback. Considering he spent much of his career running from unblocked pass-rushers and throwing to third-rate SEC receivers (until last season, when freshman stud Earl Bennett came on the scene), Cutler's accomplishments at Vandy -- 3,073 yards, 21 touchdowns and nine interceptions as a senior -- were nothing short of remarkable. But the mere fact that many among the NFL cognoscenti are even thinking about taking Cutler ahead of the most dangerous quarterback to come through the college ranks in years (hint: rhymes with "rinse tongue") makes Cutler overrated -- and raises serious questions about how some of these scouts themselves would perform on the Wonderlic. Underrated: Brodie Croyle, Alabama Considering how much emphasis the NFL puts on arm strength, you'd think they'd be falling all over themselves for this guy. Croyle has a gun (just ask the Florida secondary). His mechanics are impeccable and his natural leadership abilities had a great deal to do with the Tide jumping out to a 9-0 start last season. I'm sure his substantial injury history (he underwent shoulder and ACL surgeries while in Tuscaloosa) is helping to knock him down the pecking order, but the fifth-year senior was a picture of health last season when he completed nearly 60 percent of his passes for 2,499 yards, 14 touchdowns and just four interceptions. This, despite the fact he played behind a horrendous offensive line that allowed 39 sacks and had to work with a largely unreliable receiving corps after Tyrone Prothro went down with a broken leg.
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05-02-2006, 10:25 AM	#4
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Cutler has far more upside. He was also the 11th pick overall, a pick they traded up for. I'll take Croyle.
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Archie Bunker The Wait Is Over Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Random Small Town Casino cash: $1678978	I say this with homer glasses off, in 3 years Croyle will be the better QB of the 2. Croyle has the better arm and makes better decisions. If he bulks up a little bit and Shea coaches him up the sky is the limit.
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05-02-2006, 10:29 AM	#7
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05-02-2006, 10:42 AM	#11
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05-02-2006, 10:50 AM	#13
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FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	I just got a two for one deal on a new prescription for homer spectacles and I'm seeing better than ever right now. Time will tell, of course, and I think Cutler is a fine QB. But, we have Brodie. So, I'll vote for him. Why? because winning more than 6 football games a year would be an entirely new experience for the goats' new gridiron leader. FAX
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