3/25 Surtain update from Miami.com

Bootlegged · 03-25-2005, 06:13 AM

CHIEFS EYE SURTAIN

Kansas City coach Dick Vermiel is hinting the Chiefs will warm up their talks with the agents for Patrick Surtain and Ty Law in the hope of getting one of those players before the draft.

''We'd like to get one more [free agent]. We'd like to get a corner before we go into the draft,'' Vermiel said. ``We're interested in Surtain, we're interested in Ty Law. There's just a chance. It would all have to fit.''

The Chiefs and the agency representing Surtain, Premier Management, have had conversations in recent days.

A fit with Surtain would have to include a contract averaging approximately $7 million per season with $12 million to $14 million in guaranteed money. The Chiefs also would have to compensate the Dolphins with a ''first-day'' draft pick, meaning Miami is seeking a second- or third-round pick for the Pro Bowl cornerback.

The Chiefs were awarded a third-round compensatory pick (99th overall) by the NFL this week.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...s/11225009.htm

keg in kc · 03-25-2005, 06:25 AM

Thrilling.

Warrior5 · 03-25-2005, 06:47 AM

Thanks for the update. A "first-day" draft pick...wonder if this means Miami is softening their stance a bit, or if that's just more speculation to add to debate.

Positive is the Chiefs are engaging. I'm not sold on Law.

CrazyHorse · 03-25-2005, 06:58 AM

Can you trade compensatory picks?

Warrior5 · 03-25-2005, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Can you trade compensatory picks?

I don't think so.

CrazyHorse · 03-25-2005, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Warrior5

I don't think so.

In that case it would still have to be our second

Mike Grose · 03-25-2005, 07:21 AM

Unless we pick up another third in a trade. Could be possible. Trade down in the second and pick up a second third that we give to Miami for Surtain.

JamSec128 · 03-25-2005, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Can you trade compensatory picks?

I was looking at NFL.com for the rules of compensatory picks and it doesn't really clarify the rule on trading compensatory picks. My guess is you can't because the pick is loss of restricted free agents.

Here is a copy of what NFL.com says when searching for compensatory pick.

"Some teams have more than one pick in a round, and some teams may not have any picks in a round. Picks per team vary because draft picks can be traded to other teams, and the NFL can award additional picks to a team if the team loses players designated as restricted free agents.

The NFL awards compensatory picks based on the net loss of restricted free agents. The limit for compensatory picks is four per team."

tomahawk kid · 03-25-2005, 07:28 AM

I think this is (at least somewhat) encouraging.

It sounds like talks with Miami and Surtain's people are moving forward whereas it was previously indicated that they were stagnant.

If we somehow get Surtain, I'll be doing back flips. Ty Law just seems like too big of a risk to me right now.

mississippichiefan · 03-25-2005, 07:44 AM

While I would love to have Law , I hope we jump on the Surtain deal . I would give up a 2 if we have to. Law is a great play maker and leader and would really help us if he is healthy , but I am not sure if he is so bring on Surtain ! Go Chiefs !!!!

**mlyonsd** · 03-25-2005, 07:47 AM

Law is too old and too big an injury gamble. Come on CP, go for Surtain. Do it.

tomahawk kid · 03-25-2005, 07:50 AM

Gaz · 03-25-2005, 08:14 AM

I want Dyson & Hill/Edwards.

I reluctantly accept Surtain [but think it is a financial mistake].

I absolutely do not want Law.

xoxo~
Gaz
Prioritizing.

shakesthecat · 03-25-2005, 08:35 AM

Simply for the mental well being of numerous Planet members, I hope this happens soon.

bricks · 03-25-2005, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by shakesthecat

Simply for the mental well being of numerous Planet members, I hope this happens soon.

I hear ya man. let's hope this doesn't end up like a soap opera. god, i hate soap operas.

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Bootlegged One4Mahomes Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: f Casino cash: $9985545	3/25 Surtain update from Miami.com CHIEFS EYE SURTAIN Kansas City coach Dick Vermiel is hinting the Chiefs will warm up their talks with the agents for Patrick Surtain and Ty Law in the hope of getting one of those players before the draft. ''We'd like to get one more [free agent]. We'd like to get a corner before we go into the draft,'' Vermiel said. ``We're interested in Surtain, we're interested in Ty Law. There's just a chance. It would all have to fit.'' The Chiefs and the agency representing Surtain, Premier Management, have had conversations in recent days. A fit with Surtain would have to include a contract averaging approximately $7 million per season with $12 million to $14 million in guaranteed money. The Chiefs also would have to compensate the Dolphins with a ''first-day'' draft pick, meaning Miami is seeking a second- or third-round pick for the Pro Bowl cornerback. The Chiefs were awarded a third-round compensatory pick (99th overall) by the NFL this week. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...s/11225009.htm
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Warrior5 Stram was Cav Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8984010	Lattimer, Thanks for the update. A "first-day" draft pick...wonder if this means Miami is softening their stance a bit, or if that's just more speculation to add to debate. Positive is the Chiefs are engaging. I'm not sold on Law. __________________ The best pass defense is attacking the passer.
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tomahawk kid Drunk in the Neighborhood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Beating the War Drums Casino cash: $10001837	I think this is (at least somewhat) encouraging. It sounds like talks with Miami and Surtain's people are moving forward whereas it was previously indicated that they were stagnant. If we somehow get Surtain, I'll be doing back flips. Ty Law just seems like too big of a risk to me right now.
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mississippichiefan Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: mississippi Casino cash: $10004900	While I would love to have Law , I hope we jump on the Surtain deal . I would give up a 2 if we have to. Law is a great play maker and leader and would really help us if he is healthy , but I am not sure if he is so bring on Surtain ! Go Chiefs !!!!
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mlyonsd Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Spink, SD Casino cash: $1173762	Law is too old and too big an injury gamble. Come on CP, go for Surtain. Do it.
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Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	Better than the alternative... I want Dyson & Hill/Edwards. I reluctantly accept Surtain [but think it is a financial mistake]. I absolutely do not want Law. xoxo~ Gaz Prioritizing.
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