Chiefs Chiefs Offseason Planet Evaluation: Steven Nelson

**Rain Man** · 01-25-2018, 04:16 PM

Li'l Stevie came back from an early-season injury for us. How did he do?

Steven played in 9 games this season, with 7 starts. He recorded 33 tackles and 8 assists. He had 4 passes defensed and forced 1 fumble.

ThaVirus · 01-25-2018, 06:26 PM

Has this guy ever made an impact play? Don't give a shit about him either way.

NJChiefsFan · 01-25-2018, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Has this guy ever made an impact play? Don't give a shit about him either way.

I'd say he has made a number of them. I think he is a pretty decent slot corner.

ThaVirus · 01-25-2018, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I'd say he has made a number of them. I think he is a pretty decent slot corner.

He's not bad. I view him much the same way I do Parker at this point: he's got a lot of warts and isn't an impact player but not all 11 guys need to be.

He's solid and that should be good enough to field a winning team.

NJChiefsFan · 01-25-2018, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

He's not bad. I view him much the same way I do Parker at this point: he's got a lot of warts and isn't an impact player but not all 11 guys need to be.

He's solid and that should be good enough to field a winning team.

Solid is what I would say as well. I trust him more than Parker. I don't see Parker as a long-term solution, even without considering the contract. With Nelson, at the right price, he could be a solid nickel for a while with a decent secondary around him.

**Easy 6** · 01-25-2018, 06:53 PM

C+ showed little appreciable growth over his numbers from last years 15 games, no impact plays either year... no picks, no sacks the last 2 years, a couple fumble recoveries in 2016

Worse than expected, you hope to see genuine growth from a 3rd rounder

Slightly smaller role going forward, just trying to be realistic about upcoming improvements, he'll still play some

Stable ability, he likely is what he is

We gave up a 3rd for him, and he has played plenty... I want equal value in return

Cant decide between Da Vinci or Galileo, too much greatness to break down there... call it a push

*edited to C+, was too hard on him with C-

**Rain Man** · 01-25-2018, 07:07 PM

I'm relatively bullish on Steven Nelson. He's a good tackler and good in coverage. His only weakness is that he's not a playmaker. If he learns to track the ball, he can be a very good player. But even as he stands, I think there's a notable role for him on the team.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-25-2018, 07:24 PM

One thing I will say for him is this: slot CB is probably the 2nd hardest position to play in the NFL right now behind QB. To find a guy like him who does a serviceable job is nice to have.

Also, it's made even tougher for him since Sutton doesn't let Peters stick on the #1 WR.

Nelson had an amazing game against Oakland when he played on the outside due to Peters being suspended. Would like to see more impact plays, but he did force a fumble or 2 IIRC.

**TimeForWasp** · 01-25-2018, 10:21 PM

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oldman · 01-26-2018, 07:40 AM

I'm giving him a straight B. He slightly exceeded overall, but his real value is as a slot CB. Our pass defense improved when he returned. I think he's stable for right now and may ascend once he's totally healed. If we had to trade, I'd want a 2nd for him. Gimme Leo.

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B	7	29.17%
B-	8	33.33%
C+	1	4.17%
C	2	8.33%
C-	2	8.33%
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D	0	0%
D-	1	4.17%
F	2	8.33%
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Part 2: 2017 Performance Relative to Expectations	0	0%
Greatly exceeded my expectations	0	0%
Slightly exceeded my expectations	4	16.67%
Performed about like I expected	8	33.33%
Performed slightly worse than my expectations	5	20.83%
Performed far short of my expectations	4	16.67%
Part 3: Desired Role for 2018	0	0%
Much larger	2	8.33%
Slightly larger	2	8.33%
About the same as 2017	10	41.67%
Slightly smaller	5	20.83%
Much smaller	0	0%
Off the team	2	8.33%
Part 4: I think this player’s ability is …	0	0%
Ascending	8	33.33%
Stable	8	33.33%
Descending	4	16.67%
Part 5: The minimum I would trade this player for is a mid- …	0	0%
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7th round pick	0	0%
6th round pick	1	4.17%
5th round pick	3	12.50%
4th round pick	4	16.67%
3rd round pick	7	29.17%
2nd round pick	2	8.33%
1st round pick	0	0%
A pair of 1st round picks	0	0%
I would not trade this player	1	4.17%
Part 6: I prefer…	0	0%
Galileo	6	25.00%
Da Vinci	13	54.17%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

01-25-2018, 04:16 PM
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $2798491 VARSITY	Chiefs Offseason Planet Evaluation: Steven Nelson Li'l Stevie came back from an early-season injury for us. How did he do? Steven played in 9 games this season, with 7 starts. He recorded 33 tackles and 8 assists. He had 4 passes defensed and forced 1 fumble.
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01-25-2018, 06:26 PM	#2
ThaVirus You gotta kill a few people Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $1562369	Has this guy ever made an impact play? Don't give a shit about him either way.
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01-25-2018, 06:53 PM	#6
Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3207775	C+ showed little appreciable growth over his numbers from last years 15 games, no impact plays either year... no picks, no sacks the last 2 years, a couple fumble recoveries in 2016 Worse than expected, you hope to see genuine growth from a 3rd rounder Slightly smaller role going forward, just trying to be realistic about upcoming improvements, he'll still play some Stable ability, he likely is what he is We gave up a 3rd for him, and he has played plenty... I want equal value in return Cant decide between Da Vinci or Galileo, too much greatness to break down there... call it a push edited to C+, was too hard on him with C- Last edited by Easy 6; 01-26-2018 at 10:22 AM..*
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01-25-2018, 07:07 PM	#7
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $2798491 VARSITY	I'm relatively bullish on Steven Nelson. He's a good tackler and good in coverage. His only weakness is that he's not a playmaker. If he learns to track the ball, he can be a very good player. But even as he stands, I think there's a notable role for him on the team. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $9089447	One thing I will say for him is this: slot CB is probably the 2nd hardest position to play in the NFL right now behind QB. To find a guy like him who does a serviceable job is nice to have. Also, it's made even tougher for him since Sutton doesn't let Peters stick on the #1 WR. Nelson had an amazing game against Oakland when he played on the outside due to Peters being suspended. Would like to see more impact plays, but he did force a fumble or 2 IIRC.
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01-26-2018, 07:40 AM	#10
oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	I'm giving him a straight B. He slightly exceeded overall, but his real value is as a slot CB. Our pass defense improved when he returned. I think he's stable for right now and may ascend once he's totally healed. If we had to trade, I'd want a 2nd for him. Gimme Leo.
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