Chiefs Foles is a poor man's Alex Smith

**cdcox** · 10-04-2016, 12:37 AM

Just trying to get out in front of this. If we eventually escape from Alex in a couple of years is it mandatory that we pin our hopes on Foles for 2-3 additional years? Exactly WTF is the point? I'm fine with Alex. Let's ride his blessed ass to Cassel land. But when we have found him inadequate, who seriously wants to try Alex part two on clearance at Walmart just to give AR a chance to FINALLY prove his dogma about the efficacy of the sideways passing game?

Nickhead · 10-04-2016, 01:10 AM

i always thought of alex as a rich mans cassel. then i thought he was better than that, now i wonder.

he's gotta seriously pull a rabbit out of his ass the rest of the season.

Demonpenz · 10-04-2016, 02:01 AM

Where is Alex's running game. Can't even run the Reid option anymore?

MIAdragon · 10-04-2016, 05:43 AM

Don't think anyone is anointing Foles the QBofTF or anything. We have a known quantity in Alex and it sucks, would be nice to see if Foles can be any better.

KCUnited · 10-04-2016, 05:45 AM

It's a no quinn situation for Chiefs fans.

Hammock Parties · 10-04-2016, 06:58 AM

The Foles acquisition definitely made me uneasy. It seems like a convenient way for Reid to avoid having to trade high picks or draft a QB in 2-3 years.

If that happens I'm guessing Reid retires at 62 or 63, having accomplished nothing in KC, and then we finally draft a QB with the next coach.

But at least we'll have Dorsey.

I guess after 20 years 1 out of 3 ain't bad.

Aspengc8 · 10-04-2016, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Where is Alex's running game. Can't even run the Reid option anymore?

read option was a big part of their spread offense last year. I have not seen him run it once this year, just those silly speed options out of heavy sets.

Red Dawg · 10-04-2016, 07:16 AM

I don't think anyone really wants Foles to be our guy but he's better than Smith for certain and if this franchise wants to try and really win this season then Alex should be benched because he's played that bad. We need to draft a QB and try that route for a change since we've tried all other avenues. The only QB's to win the SB in the last numerous years were home grown QB's. Peyton and Brees being the two exceptions and Peyton was really not a factor Brady, Wilson, Eli, Flacco and Ben are all home grown.

In the 90's most of them were also. It's hit or miss with QB's and you never really know until they play but what have we got to lose? This city has not won the SB in so long it's plain sad. At least the Browns put some effort to trying to get a QB than can win.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 10-04-2016, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8

read option was a big part of their spread offense last year. I have not seen him run it once this year, just those silly speed options out of heavy sets.

Game winning td was read option against SD. He's run it with west a couple times too

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 10-04-2016, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

I don't think anyone really wants Foles to be our guy but he's better than Smith for certain and if this franchise wants to try and really win this season then Alex should be benched because he's played that bad. We need to draft a QB and try that route for a change since we've tried all other avenues. The only QB's to win the SB in the last numerous years were home grown QB's. Peyton and Brees being the two exceptions and Peyton was really not a factor Brady, Wilson, Eli, Flacco and Ben are all home grown.

In the 90's most of them were also. It's hit or miss with QB's and you never really know until they play but what have we got to lose? This city has not won the SB in so long it's plain sad. At least the Browns put some effort to trying to get a QB than can win.

7 TDs and 10 INTs last season somehow makes Foles better than Smith??

Aspengc8 · 10-04-2016, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Game winning td was read option against SD. He's run it with west a couple times too

That was more of a speed option. They used to run read options all the time out of spread.

OctoberFart · 10-04-2016, 07:52 AM

You guys will be really disappointed if Foles is starting for chefs.

WhiteWhale · 10-04-2016, 07:55 AM

Umm.. Foles has one of the highest rates of throwing downfield in the NFL.

That's not to say he's better, but he's sure as shit not the same type of QB to anyone who actually watches football.

Red Dawg · 10-04-2016, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

7 TDs and 10 INTs last season somehow makes Foles better than Smith??

Foles will attempt to get TD's. That fact alone makes him better than Smith. Any QB would be better than Smith because he's the only QB in the league completely adverse to attempting to score TD's.

What team besides ours would actually play a QB game after game that can't move the offense and score? He couldn't do it last season and he can't do it this season but still he gets to start.

Red Dawg · 10-04-2016, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OctoberFart

You guys will be really disappointed if Foles is starting for chefs.

Can only get better. Smith is unwatchable bad and no one in the league would make him their starter but us. That's how stupid our franchise is.

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cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2181769	Foles is a poor man's Alex Smith Just trying to get out in front of this. If we eventually escape from Alex in a couple of years is it mandatory that we pin our hopes on Foles for 2-3 additional years? Exactly WTF is the point? I'm fine with Alex. Let's ride his blessed ass to Cassel land. But when we have found him inadequate, who seriously wants to try Alex part two on clearance at Walmart just to give AR a chance to FINALLY prove his dogma about the efficacy of the sideways passing game?
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Nickhead EvOlVeD Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Blue Mountains, Australia Casino cash: $2359868	i always thought of alex as a rich mans cassel. then i thought he was better than that, now i wonder. he's gotta seriously pull a rabbit out of his ass the rest of the season.
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MIAdragon Someone pass the antifreeze Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Miami (North Cuba) Casino cash: $1297819	Don't think anyone is anointing Foles the QBofTF or anything. We have a known quantity in Alex and it sucks, would be nice to see if Foles can be any better.
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4410478	The Foles acquisition definitely made me uneasy. It seems like a convenient way for Reid to avoid having to trade high picks or draft a QB in 2-3 years. If that happens I'm guessing Reid retires at 62 or 63, having accomplished nothing in KC, and then we finally draft a QB with the next coach. But at least we'll have Dorsey. I guess after 20 years 1 out of 3 ain't bad. __________________ Chiefs game films
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Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $4562858	I don't think anyone really wants Foles to be our guy but he's better than Smith for certain and if this franchise wants to try and really win this season then Alex should be benched because he's played that bad. We need to draft a QB and try that route for a change since we've tried all other avenues. The only QB's to win the SB in the last numerous years were home grown QB's. Peyton and Brees being the two exceptions and Peyton was really not a factor Brady, Wilson, Eli, Flacco and Ben are all home grown. In the 90's most of them were also. It's hit or miss with QB's and you never really know until they play but what have we got to lose? This city has not won the SB in so long it's plain sad. At least the Browns put some effort to trying to get a QB than can win. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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10-04-2016, 07:55 AM	#13
WhiteWhale Bring it on Ahab! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Doo-Dah Casino cash: $10015152	Umm.. Foles has one of the highest rates of throwing downfield in the NFL. That's not to say he's better, but he's sure as shit not the same type of QB to anyone who actually watches football.
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