Football Should teams sit starters after being eliminated from playoff contention

**Buehler445** · 10-06-2015, 09:58 AM

It came up in BossChiefs next 4 games thread. If we end up 2-6, we should run Murray out there. LeBetard brought up the point that Detroits dudes are going to go through the impact and injuries for nothing at 0-4 (he was pointing out that the NFL ****ed up the call).

But that got me to thinking why don't teams that are done treat it like preseason. If I were Detroit I would sit Johnson and Stafford. If you have a guy you want to get some experience like Murray, run him out there. Or trade bait, like Davis maybe. But it might give a guy a shot to earn a spot. Or get tape out there for another team.

Interesting concept. Won't happen, but what do you guys think?

**The Franchise** · 10-06-2015, 10:00 AM

Because if you're a coach on the hot seat.....it will get you shit canned in a hurry.

That and I'm sure the starters won't like it because they have bonuses tied to snaps played as well as stats.

**Bowser** · 10-06-2015, 10:00 AM

I'm no opposed to it. If a team is sitting at 4-8, why wouldn't that team do it? See what is in store for your future, then plan your draft accordingly. Owners might not like it so much, considering all the millions of dollars of their money sitting on the bench...

KCUnited · 10-06-2015, 10:01 AM

Job security, fans, ticket sales...

**Bowser** · 10-06-2015, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Because if you're a coach on the hot seat.....it will get you shit canned in a hurry.

That and I'm sure the starters won't like it because they have bonuses tied to snaps played as well as stats.

This as well

**The Franchise** · 10-06-2015, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Job security, fans, ticket sales...

Forgot about ticket sales.

Think of how empty the stadiums would be if a majority of the starters aren't playing. People aren't going to show up to watch the Aaron Murrays on a team get some meaningful snaps.

Reerun_KC · 10-06-2015, 10:04 AM

I don't think Reids pride would allow that to happen... Also you have a franchise that has proven over and over that its love of .500 to sub .500 records are most important goal each year. If we hit 2-6/3-5 the quest will be on for 7-9 and the fan base will have hope going into next year because of the so called strong finish. That equals season ticket sales and BBQ parking lot for 2016...

**Buehler445** · 10-06-2015, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Because if you're a coach on the hot seat.....it will get you shit canned in a hurry.

That and I'm sure the starters won't like it because they have bonuses tied to snaps played as well as stats.

If I were a coach I'd swing for the fences. The margin is so thin that of you can have a guy like Charles fresher next year because he took half the snaps he might be able to make a run. Or find a guy that shines when the lights Omar's on.

I would do it voluntarily. It would help player relations with the vets by recognizing the I'll on their bodies. It would also help lower tier guys fighting for a spot. If a guy wants his incentives let him play.

So the question is if you are 0-4 you're faced with likely going 4-12 with playing everybody or 2-14 sitting dudes. What's the probability increase with losing 2 more games? What about 2-6 at the halfway point? Maybe you can get to 6-10 or 8-8 vs 4-10. Obviously ownership would have to be on board but I'd try it.

**The Franchise** · 10-06-2015, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

If I were a coach I'd swing for the fences. The margin is so thin that of you can have a guy like Charles fresher next year because he took half the snaps he might be able to make a run. Or find a guy that shines when the lights Omar's on.

I would do it voluntarily. It would help player relations with the vets by recognizing the I'll on their bodies. It would also help lower tier guys fighting for a spot. If a guy wants his incentives let him play.

So the question is if you are 0-4 you're faced with likely going 4-12 with playing everybody or 2-14 sitting dudes. What's the probability increase with losing 2 more games? What about 2-6 at the halfway point? Maybe you can get to 6-10 or 8-8 vs 4-10. Obviously ownership would have to be on board but I'd try it.

But still....you're talking about sitting grown men who live and die by the stats they accumulate over the course of their career.

**Buehler445** · 10-06-2015, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I don't think Reids pride would allow that to happen... Also you have a franchise that has proven over and over that its love of .500 to sub .500 records are most important goal each year. If we hit 2-6/3-5 the quest will be on for 7-9 and the fan base will have hope going into next year because of the so called strong finish. That equals season ticket sales and BBQ parking lot for 2016...

I'm talking in general. KC isn't doing it ever. Because lord knows that fighting for an edge doesn't happen in KC.

**wazu** · 10-06-2015, 10:11 AM

I would do this, but not exactly like preseason. Starters would still play but with a steady rotation. More rest, more development. QB would be case by case. In Alex's case he would go right to the bench.

BWillie · 10-06-2015, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Forgot about ticket sales.

Think of how empty the stadiums would be if a majority of the starters aren't playing. People aren't going to show up to watch the Aaron Murrays on a team get some meaningful snaps.

Sure they would. Losing team fanbases would LOVE to watch back up QBs get their shot. Hope.

**Buehler445** · 10-06-2015, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

But still....you're talking about sitting grown men who live and die by the stats they accumulate over the course of their career.

I agree. It'd be a tough sell but if I am a guy like Jamaal Charles I'd do it. I know I'm not getting cut, and if I can extend my career it might lead to another contract. That's huge. Plus the pain. Dude takes a lot of hits. Same with lineman. Maybe we don't have anybody on the roster that's guranteed but if Roaf were on this roster I would want him to sit. **** taking all those hits. Save them for when it matters.

**wazu** · 10-06-2015, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Sure they would. Losing team fanbases would LOVE to watch back up QBs get their shot. Hope.

I would go to games in December to see Aaron Murray play.

**The Franchise** · 10-06-2015, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Sure they would. Losing team fanbases would LOVE to watch back up QBs get their shot. Hope.

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Originally Posted by wazu

I would go to games in December to see Aaron Murray play.

You're judging other team's fanbases off of posters here on CP.

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wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $1772295 VARSITY	I would do this, but not exactly like preseason. Starters would still play but with a steady rotation. More rest, more development. QB would be case by case. In Alex's case he would go right to the bench.
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