Chiefs Want to fix the offensive line next season? Stop looking to the draft

**RealSNR** · 12-29-2014, 01:15 AM

This means you, Saccopoo.

Do you really want Andy Reid and John Dorsey to build the future of this line? Given their histories with the Packers and Eagles, these two dildos wouldn't be able to scout out a good offensive lineman if Sandra Bullock provided them with all of the protective instincts scores.

**** using high draft picks to get our guys. I'm sick and ****ing tired of investing top draft stock and getting back Jeff Allens and Jon Asamoahs. And don't tell me that Andy Reid and John Dorsey are any better at finding good linemen than Pioli. Their histories indicate otherwise.

Free agency is where it's at. Spend the money to get a halfway decent starter at LG. Use one or two middle round picks to draft some depth. Profit.

I will bump this thread every time some ****ing moron talks about depending on the draft for our 2015 offensive line. We're the Chiefs. We're not going to get a rookie who will be nails for us instantly. And that's what we need. So work around it.

Problem solved. Adequate OL achieved. Mission accomplished.

RunKC · 12-29-2014, 01:22 AM

Don't think there is a quality RT in free agency. I'd be willing to draft Daryl Williams to be that guy in rd 3 tho.

jonzie04 · 12-29-2014, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Don't think there is a quality RT in free agency. I'd be willing to draft Daryl Williams to be that guy in rd 3 tho.

Roos, Dunlap can play both sides. Buluga, Doug Free, Barksdale.

OldSchool · 12-29-2014, 01:29 AM

Reid needs to find his Evan Mathis and Jason Peters.

**TimBone** · 12-29-2014, 01:43 AM

I was talking to my buddy about this earlier today. A LG can definitely be had through Free Agency. I hope they bring in a large number of G's actually. Let them all compete and top two get the spots. I bet they plan on letting Fulton continue at RG, though.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 12-29-2014, 01:46 AM

My philosophy has always been that you should build your Offense through FA and draft your defense. This allows you to spend your money on one side of the ball and there are always great quality players ready for a new team.

This also keeps your Defense young and fast .

That being said I'd still like to get a great young WR but we really need a great tackling machine at LB in this draft.

penbrook · 12-29-2014, 01:51 AM

Mike Iupati, Clint Boling, and Orlando Franklin are some of the guards to hit free agency

Sassy Squatch · 12-29-2014, 01:53 AM

I sense many a jimmy rustling come draft day.

RobBlake · 12-29-2014, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by penbook

Mike Iupati, Clint Boling, and Orlando Franklin are some of the guards to hit free agency

Charles would love Iupati... A+ on run blocking... 'bout B- on pass blocking

Saccopoo · 12-29-2014, 01:57 AM

You know, if they drafted Alex Mack, Russell Okung, Rod Hudson, Zane Beadles and Gabe Jackson like I wanted, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

However, if you are completely satisfied with super duper free agents like Mike McGlynn, Jeff Linkenbach and their ilk, please continue to post such inane drivel.

jonzie04 · 12-29-2014, 02:06 AM

Lots of different philosophies. From a financial stand point, it really doesn't make any sense drafting any lineman other than a LT early. There are quality players at the other 4 spots every year, and they dont cost very much money. There really isn't a lot of money saved having a guard on a rookie salary vs having a vet on a veteran salary. One undeniable thing though is if you want a top tier QB or WR you have to draft them. You aren't going to get a top tier guy at either position in FA, and even the "good" guys cost a ridiculous amount of money. If you can get a QB or WR to produce early on his rookie contract, it goes a VERY long ways. But overall I really don't care who we draft vs who we bring in this season, as long as we hit on the guys we bring in. It does make more sense to focus on WRs in the draft, and OL in FA/later in the draft. But good WR's can be had beyond the first round. I doubt we draft a QB early this year, but that would be nice.

thabear04 · 12-29-2014, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Reid needs to find his Evan Mathis and Jason Peters.

Jason Peters was never drafted with Reid.

OldSchool · 12-29-2014, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by thabear04

Jason Peters was never drafted with Reid.

That was my point . . .

On the other hand, the Cowboys beg to differ.

Imagine Charles with those running lanes . . . Collins would look nice in red. Sign Clint Bolings away from Cincy as well, he is pretty good all-around and a hell of a lot better than the shit that was trotted out there this year.

**dannybcaitlyn** · 12-29-2014, 06:49 AM

I agree. Obviously our scouts, GM'S and Coaches can't evaluate o-line talent since marty days. I believe vermeil had most of the pieces handed to him but he went and got Roaf and was it wiegman? So I'd rather take our chances in free agency with a proven players. We went from a o-line with four probowlers to none. So we suck at drafting them period.

**RealSNR** · 12-29-2014, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

You know, if they drafted Alex Mack, Russell Okung, Rod Hudson, Zane Beadles and Gabe Jackson like I wanted, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

However, if you are completely satisfied with super duper free agents like Mike McGlynn, Jeff Linkenbach and their ilk, please continue to post such inane drivel.

We've been drafting interior line in the high rounds for years, and all it's gotten us is Rodney Hudson. It's like when the Chiefs kept drafting DTs for years and years in the first three rounds. At some point you cut your losses and start drafting a different position instead of continuing to double down on stuff you suck at finding talent for.

Reid has an atrocious record at drafting offensive linemen. What makes you ****ing think we should trust him to use our valuable draft picks to **** shit up again?

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RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $2090208	Want to fix the offensive line next season? Stop looking to the draft This means you, Saccopoo. Do you really want Andy Reid and John Dorsey to build the future of this line? Given their histories with the Packers and Eagles, these two dildos wouldn't be able to scout out a good offensive lineman if Sandra Bullock provided them with all of the protective instincts scores. ** using high draft picks to get our guys. I'm sick and ing tired of investing top draft stock and getting back Jeff Allens and Jon Asamoahs. And don't tell me that Andy Reid and John Dorsey are any better at finding good linemen than Pioli. Their histories indicate otherwise. Free agency is where it's at. Spend the money to get a halfway decent starter at LG. Use one or two middle round picks to draft some depth. Profit. I will bump this thread every time some **ing moron talks about depending on the draft for our 2015 offensive line. We're the Chiefs. We're not going to get a rookie who will be nails for us instantly. And that's what we need. So work around it. Problem solved. Adequate OL achieved. Mission accomplished.
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12-29-2014, 01:22 AM	#2
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TimBone Mostly Ignored Join Date: Jul 2013 Casino cash: $8499985	I was talking to my buddy about this earlier today. A LG can definitely be had through Free Agency. I hope they bring in a large number of G's actually. Let them all compete and top two get the spots. I bet they plan on letting Fulton continue at RG, though.
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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1450477	My philosophy has always been that you should build your Offense through FA and draft your defense. This allows you to spend your money on one side of the ball and there are always great quality players ready for a new team. This also keeps your Defense young and fast . That being said I'd still like to get a great young WR but we really need a great tackling machine at LB in this draft.
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Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	You know, if they drafted Alex Mack, Russell Okung, Rod Hudson, Zane Beadles and Gabe Jackson like I wanted, we wouldn't be having this discussion. However, if you are completely satisfied with super duper free agents like Mike McGlynn, Jeff Linkenbach and their ilk, please continue to post such inane drivel.
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12-29-2014, 02:06 AM	#11
jonzie04 MVP Join Date: Feb 2014 Casino cash: $5766817	Lots of different philosophies. From a financial stand point, it really doesn't make any sense drafting any lineman other than a LT early. There are quality players at the other 4 spots every year, and they dont cost very much money. There really isn't a lot of money saved having a guard on a rookie salary vs having a vet on a veteran salary. One undeniable thing though is if you want a top tier QB or WR you have to draft them. You aren't going to get a top tier guy at either position in FA, and even the "good" guys cost a ridiculous amount of money. If you can get a QB or WR to produce early on his rookie contract, it goes a VERY long ways. But overall I really don't care who we draft vs who we bring in this season, as long as we hit on the guys we bring in. It does make more sense to focus on WRs in the draft, and OL in FA/later in the draft. But good WR's can be had beyond the first round. I doubt we draft a QB early this year, but that would be nice.
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12-29-2014, 06:49 AM	#14
dannybcaitlyn Supporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Casino cash: $5174000	I agree. Obviously our scouts, GM'S and Coaches can't evaluate o-line talent since marty days. I believe vermeil had most of the pieces handed to him but he went and got Roaf and was it wiegman? So I'd rather take our chances in free agency with a proven players. We went from a o-line with four probowlers to none. So we suck at drafting them period.
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