Football Unlikely, Colts scenario...

melbar · 03:16 PM

First off, I know its unlikely! ....

Bear with me here...What about the small chance the colts dont draft Luck?

Colts have a LOT of needs. Everyone is focusing on the Rams for a trade up.
Manning says he can play which the Colts cant officially see firsthand, yet a video "leakes" out of Peyton throwing well.

So what if they believe they can still have Peyton for a couple of years?

1. Colts keep Manning
2. Colts trade#1 for say in our case 2 #1's and 2# 3's give or take
3. Colts draft say Tannehill and groom for a year or 2 under Manning
4. Colts have 4 higher picks to bolster line etc.
5. Chiefs (or other bidder) get Luck on a team with less holes

I know the odds are low, but it seems to be a forgotten scenario and a forgone conclusion that the Colts take Luck no matter what. Seems RG3 has stollen all the press and momentum, but there is still a chance (albeit small) that the Colts Believe in Manning and use this position to correct the mistake of not preparing for Mannings replacement, build for the future, and keep the fanbase happy.

Just a little fun, but I'd absolutely go for this!

The Rick · 03-03-2012, 03:13 PM

Good thought, but...

If any team should know the value of a franchise quarterback, it's the Colts. Tannehill is far from the (almost) sure thing that Luck/Griffin are. Manning was great and maybe still is, but he's surely done in 2-3 years.

10-15 years of Luck/Griffin > 2-3 years of Manning + Tannehill (who is a question mark at this point)

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-03-2012, 03:15 PM

Impossible does not equal unlikely

melbar · 03-03-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Impossible does not equal unlikely

Your saying that its impossible for an NFL front office to make a bad decision?

**ChiefGator** · 03-03-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rick

If any team should know the value of a franchise quarterback, it's the Colts.

I think they are overvalueing it, frankly. Luck could end up being Alex Smith. We really don't know yet. But, they have Manning on the brain and are buying the hype.

They are a really bad team in ALOT of areas.... I think trading down would actually be the smartest thing to do. Poor QB they draft is going to be inheriting a bad team that only Manning can likely cover up.

DBoweShow · 03-03-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

I think they are overvalueing it, frankly. Luck could end up being Alex Smith. We really don't know yet. But, they have Manning on the brain and are buying the hype.

They are a really bad team in ALOT of areas.... I think trading down would actually be the smartest thing to do. Poor QB they draft is going to be inheriting a bad team that only Manning can likely cover up.

I'm sure the Colts are going to trade down and lose their chance to draft the surest QB prospect since Peyton. You are insane if you truly think this.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-03-2012, 03:32 PM

Luck is going to be a Colt. I thought that would be common knowledge by now. Easiest selection by a team in a loooong time.

melbar · 03-03-2012, 03:32 PM

Remember when Reggie Bush was the obvious choice for the Texans? Granted franchise QB is a different story, but great as Luck is coming in, there are still GM's who are afraid to take that chance at QB (see Chiefs). We still dont know what the new regime has in mind. We assume, but we dont know.

DBoweShow · 03-03-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Remember when Reggie Bush was the obvious choice for the Texans? Granted franchise QB is a different story, but great as Luck is coming in, there are still GM's who are afraid to take that chance at QB (see Chiefs). We still dont know what the new regime has in mind. We assume, but we dont know.

Name one time the Chiefs have had the #1 pick with a QB prospect comparable to Luck and passed on it. Get real. This pick is a no brainer.

**ChiefGator** · 03-03-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DBoweShow

I'm sure the Colts are going to trade down and lose their chance to draft the surest QB prospect since Peyton. You are insane if you truly think this.

No, I don't think this. I think it could be a reasonable argument that they SHOULD though. They are caught up in that phrase "surest QB since Peyton",which I just don't really believe. And I'm not sure it's worth the ransom in draft picks they could likely get.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-03-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

No, I don't think this. I think it could be a reasonable argument that they SHOULD though. They are caught up in that phrase "surest QB since Peyton",which I just don't really believe. And I'm not sure it's worth the ransom in draft picks they could likely get.

Screw that. If you think he's the guy, you take him and don't think twice. I'd say 99 percent of people who follow the game think he is. You don't mess around when you have a chance at that kind of player.

DBoweShow · 03-03-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Screw that. If you think he's the guy, you take him and don't think twice. I'd say 99 percent of people who follow the game think he is. You don't mess around when you have a chance at that kind of player.

This.

melbar · 03-03-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DBoweShow

Name one time the Chiefs have had the #1 pick with a QB prospect comparable to Luck and passed on it. Get real. This pick is a no brainer.

Obviously the Chiefs havent had the #1 overall, but they havent drafted one in the first. Thats not the point. I'm just saying that nobody seems to even consider the possibility. If you think you have 3 more years of the greatest QB maybe in the history of the NFL, the guy who built your franchise, and a team hurting for talent everywhere it has to have been considered. Otherwise why not just cut him loose now? 2 weeks ago? Again, not the most likely, but not impossible.

melbar · 03-03-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Screw that. If you think he's the guy, you take him and don't think twice. I'd say 99 percent of people who follow the game think he is. You don't mess around when you have a chance at that kind of player.

Thats conventional wisdom, but again, there is another school of thought that you build the team first. Not saying that I agree in this situation, just saying that it is an option that everyone has just written off. Either the Colts have or havent made that decision. Peyton isnt gone, so its still an option not being talked about in all the RG3 frenzy.

**The Franchise** · 03-03-2012, 04:05 PM

New coach. New front office. New QB. It's that simple.

03-03-2012, 02:57 PM
melbar Hillbilly Pharoh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Branson MO. Casino cash: $10004900	Unlikely, Colts scenario... First off, I know its unlikely! .... Bear with me here...What about the small chance the colts dont draft Luck? Colts have a LOT of needs. Everyone is focusing on the Rams for a trade up. Manning says he can play which the Colts cant officially see firsthand, yet a video "leakes" out of Peyton throwing well. So what if they believe they can still have Peyton for a couple of years? 1. Colts keep Manning 2. Colts trade#1 for say in our case 2 #1's and 2# 3's give or take 3. Colts draft say Tannehill and groom for a year or 2 under Manning 4. Colts have 4 higher picks to bolster line etc. 5. Chiefs (or other bidder) get Luck on a team with less holes I know the odds are low, but it seems to be a forgotten scenario and a forgone conclusion that the Colts take Luck no matter what. Seems RG3 has stollen all the press and momentum, but there is still a chance (albeit small) that the Colts Believe in Manning and use this position to correct the mistake of not preparing for Mannings replacement, build for the future, and keep the fanbase happy. Just a little fun, but I'd absolutely go for this! Last edited by melbar; 03-03-2012 at 03:16 PM..
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03-03-2012, 03:13 PM	#2
The Rick Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Milwaukee, WI Casino cash: $7581320	Good thought, but... If any team should know the value of a franchise quarterback, it's the Colts. Tannehill is far from the (almost) sure thing that Luck/Griffin are. Manning was great and maybe still is, but he's surely done in 2-3 years. 10-15 years of Luck/Griffin > 2-3 years of Manning + Tannehill (who is a question mark at this point)
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Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $3708880	Luck is going to be a Colt. I thought that would be common knowledge by now. Easiest selection by a team in a loooong time.
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melbar Hillbilly Pharoh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Branson MO. Casino cash: $10004900	Remember when Reggie Bush was the obvious choice for the Texans? Granted franchise QB is a different story, but great as Luck is coming in, there are still GM's who are afraid to take that chance at QB (see Chiefs). We still dont know what the new regime has in mind. We assume, but we dont know. __________________
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