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**Lzen** · 02-16-2009, 03:11 PM

KU coach focusing on Iowa State, not KSU guard’s actions

By Tom Keegan

Toward the end of the KU-KSU game, K-State's Denis Clemente struck KU's Tyrel Reed in the side of the head. It wasn't noticed during the game but drew considerable attention after.

Kansas State guard Denis Clemente elbowed Kansas University’s Brady Morningstar in a way Saturday that drew a technical foul and helped to turn Saturday’s Big 12 game in KU’s direction.
But what Clemente did later with his right hand did not get detected by game referees. Late in the game, after Clemente shot a free throw, KU’s Tyrel Reed boxed him out and started to drive him back. Clemente responded by smacking Reed on the right side of the head with his open right hand.
If the Big 12 launches an investigation into the matter, it won’t be because Kansas coach Bill Self asked for it.
“Yes,” Self responded when asked if he saw it while watching game tape. “I’m not going to do anything. I’m not calling any attention to it. But, yeah, I saw it. You can’t help but see it if you watch the tape. But, no, I’m not going to do anything. It’s a dead issue. That game’s over, so we’ve got to put our focus on Iowa State. I’m definitely not going to spend any time on that.”
Big 12 spokesman Rob Carolla said "the Big 12 Conference is reviewing the situation that occurred near the end of the Kansas-Kansas State game on Saturday."

**Saulbadguy** · 02-16-2009, 03:13 PM

Suspend him for our upcoming game against North Carolina Central, a 1 win Independent Division 1 team. I'd be fine with that.

**Lzen** · 02-16-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Suspend him for our upcoming game against North Carolina Central, a 1 win Independent Division 1 team. I'd be fine with that.

Yeah, I think you guys will be alright with his services for that game.

**Saulbadguy** · 02-16-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Yeah, I think you guys will be alright with his services for that game.

Works out great, doesn't it? Maybe in the back of his mind he knew it would be a 1 game suspension, so he decided to take a free shot at the back of his head.

Reerun_KC · 02-16-2009, 03:16 PM

How bad does your RPI take a beating for this NCC game?

I have read that you can win by 35 and still drop down to like 75 in the RPI...

**Saulbadguy** · 02-16-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

How bad does your RPI take a beating for this NCC game?

I have read that you can win by 35 and still drop down to like 75 in the RPI...

Meh.

At this point I don't think it matters.

KC_Connection · 02-16-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Suspend him for our upcoming game against North Carolina Central, a 1 win Independent Division 1 team. I'd be fine with that.

Why are they on your schedule? In February??

Reerun_KC · 02-16-2009, 03:21 PM

Was just wondering Saul, especially when your on the bubble for the Dance... There is still alot of BBall left to play...

Never understood the scheduling of NCC in the middle of conference play...

**Lzen** · 02-16-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

How bad does your RPI take a beating for this NCC game?

I have read that you can win by 35 and still drop down to like 75 in the RPI...

Isn't KSU's RPI already like 75?

Anybody got a link to a free RPI site? I used to use Kenpom but now it won't pull up the 2009 RPI; just previous years.

**Saulbadguy** · 02-16-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Why are they on your schedule? In February??

We've done that the past few years. Probably a revenue thing. Hell if I know exactly why, though.

**Saulbadguy** · 02-16-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Isn't KSU's RPI already like 75?

Anybody got a link to a free RPI site? I used to use Kenpom but now it won't pull up the 2009 RPI; just previous years.

http://www.realtimerpi.com

Kenpom refuses to use RPI now because he (Ken Pomeroy) believes RPI to be useless.

FWIW Realtimerpi has K-State 76. Kenpom has K-State 38.

K-State is likely to finish 4th or 5th in the Big XII.

Reerun_KC · 02-16-2009, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen

Isn't KSU's RPI already like 75?

Anybody got a link to a free RPI site? I used to use Kenpom but now it won't pull up the 2009 RPI; just previous years.

I thought they were like 62 or 66 currently?

But this game could be the killer for the dance...

KC_Connection · 02-16-2009, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen

Isn't KSU's RPI already like 75?

Anybody got a link to a free RPI site? I used to use Kenpom but now it won't pull up the 2009 RPI; just previous years.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/polls?poll=5

**Lzen** · 02-16-2009, 03:24 PM

Thanks, Saul.

**Saulbadguy** · 02-16-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

But this game could be the killer for the dance...

If we lost it, it would for sure be a killer!

I don't see a dramatic swing from winning it, tbh.

But no, losing @Oregon, and not having a high quality OOC win, and not enough marquee in conference wins will hurt us.

02-16-2009, 03:11 PM
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