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Have a ton of good feelings about Get Back, having been a superfan since I was a child (back when they were still together). It's my favorite thing on film now, at least for now. Highly highly recommended for anyone who loves or even likes the Beatles. I wish I could personally thank Peter Jackson for putting it together. Something pretty profound about watching the "creative process" and interaction between the four, seeing a song we've loved for 50 years in it's infancy, being thrashed out on the spot. It's true what you say, how incredible under that time pressure the band and especially Paul, quietly composed what would become some of the best music of the last century. Counter to what has always been said about the Let it Be sessions, I thought the story was a happy one. Or became happy, once they left the movie studio and completed the work in their own studio. Really a joy to watch.
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So, this is a documentary using real footage, not a re-enactment right?
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I watched the first episode last night. It's long, but it's pretty fascinating stuff. |
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We actually see the iconic “Get Back” song formed from the beginning. The drama captured live of the police trying to shut down their last performance together. John Lennon showing his lighter side. Yoko just sitting there reading a magazine or newspaper in the recoding circle seems really weird. The Beatles first time together recording in 2 years, your sitting in the sessions and you’re bored? George Harrison quitting the Beatles during the recording. Interesting stuff.
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12-05-2021, 08:27 PM | #6 |
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It's a work of art -- and I love seeing a legendary band work through their creative process in such a raw way.
I was actually amazed at how deferential John was to Paul throughout the process. It seems like the central personality conflict in the band was actually Paul vs. George rather than the Yoko stuff I had heard my whole life. John just didn't want to be there without her. The band was a mess of tension after Epstein died and all of the members had to find different ways to cope (George as a songwriter, John with where he went with Yoko, Paul as the band-leader, and Ringo even pinning a song). Even more interesting seeing all of them flourish as individual song-writers in Abbey Road (by far my favorite Beatles album) and in their individual careers after The Beatles broke up. |
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Most of the middle episode is needless filler. You could feel the 'Peter Jackson' coming through there. This is a guy that turned about a 180 page book into three separate 2 hour long movies (The Hobbit trilogy).
He can get really bogged down at times. But man, the 1st episode was just riveting as hell and the last one was quite good as well. A lot of this has been covered already but man McCartney is a genius. And yeah, he can be a bit of a taskmaster at times, but SOMEONE had to be. Lennon was deep into his heroin addiction at the time and had really checked out. Harrison was clearly feeling overlooked and frustrated and Ringo...well he was Ringo. In the 'flowerpot meeting' McCartney alluded to it a bit. He said something like "You've always been the leader and now it has to be me..." and I think he felt a responsibility to keep things together. And he's just so clearly Type A that the way his leadership is going to come out is what you saw in Let It Be. And I can imagine that would be grating for someone like Harrison. It also gives me a lot more respect and understanding of what Epstein brought to the group. He really was their anchor. I wonder how things would've gone had he not died - they clearly felt rudderless without an 'adult' around to keep things grounded. And when you watch that documentary, there's just nobody in their ear apart from awed yes men and assistants. I also think that some of the 'The tension was immense and Yoko broke up the band...' shit came from Lennon. He really seems to have had a chip on his shoulder through the 70s and said some shit that I just struggle to find evidence for. I saw some line somewhere where he said "anytime Paul sang "Get back" he looked right at Yoko..." Oh c'mon. He got along really well with Yoko and had nothing but positive things to say about here and even her influence on Lennon. Moreover, the entire song started as a protest piece AGAINST strict immigration policies. There's just no way he sat there and stone-cold stared at Yoko as he was singing that. I think he had a heroin addled and semi-paranoid unreliable narrator in Lennon and it unfairly colored our view of how that all went down. I hope it was at least a little shame on Lennons part that led to that. I hope he recognizes what his addiction and subsequent creative withdrawal from the Beatles did to create a bit of a vacuum there. Now ultimately it just may not have mattered. But a lot of people don't recognize just how brief the Beatles run was. I think Ringo showed up in 62 and by 70 they were done. They essentially spanned 2 Presidential terms (Kennedy/LBJ) and that was it. I have a hard time believing that was inevitable. Sure, bands break up, but the historically great ones never STAY that way. I do wonder if their method of recording created more distance than usual and maybe that's why they didn't ever reunite. With all the multi-track recording they did and the fact that they stopped touring so quickly, they just weren't really playing 'as a band' much anymore. A lot of what they were doing was recording their parts individually and then they were mixed together. They probably felt less attachment to each other through the mid-late 60s. That does seem a little unique to them and maybe also contributed to their demise.
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He was high. I really do feel bad for McCartney in all that. The Alpha role was thrust upon him and he seemed like he was trying to 'build the plane as he was flying it'. He was a kid still; 26, I believe? He didn't know how to lead yet, but the raw material was obviously there for it. And it wasn't something he aspired to either. And when things fell apart under was would have ostensibly been 'his' stewardship, historically he took some barbs for it. But you can really see how hard he tried to make this work and how little support he was getting. But/for him as a driving force, you obviously don't get Abbey Road or Get Back. I almost wonder if they'd have even managed as far back as the White Album. They were kind of a mess.
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I'd love to see this, but as a cord cutter it's not an option right now. Hopefully it will be available on more platforms in the future.
Rick Beato has a couple videos about it on his YouTube channel. Thats what really got me intrigued. |
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12-06-2021, 11:37 AM | #12 |
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The Beatles can eat my dirty asshole. Paul and Ringo need to **** off and die already, get the feature film about the band that is undoubtedly already in the works done and over with, and then they can be relegated to history where they ****ing belong.
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George and Paul's beef, otoh, caused so much scarring between the two that George refused to tour with Paul and Ringo when the band re-united (sans Lennon) in the 90's. That beef definitely feels deeper as those two had played together since they were teenagers, and Paul never seemed to view George as anything but a subordinate (from George's standpoint, anyway). Last edited by Chiefspants; 12-06-2021 at 11:47 AM.. |
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Regarding Harrison - I'm not sure what I think about him. I think he was talented, sure. But I also think he was a bit full of himself as well.
And then when I hear "All Those Years Ago" and compare the lyrics to the music I'm just...confused. I mean that song is dark, man. And he puts almost some bubble gum pop backing to it like it's a Traveling Wilbury's song. His biggest hit was What is Life and I dunno - it's just a generic pop song. I'm not sure I quite understand his angst, to be honest. My memory is he's also the one that really disliked touring the most. I wonder if he just never quite meshed with the group. I mean even in the documentary when he leaves, Lennon's like "well if he's gone, we'll get Clapton..." They never seemed to really fully embrace him and I'm not sure he ever really had the chops he thought he did (not sufficient enough to hang with Lennon/McCartney anyway).
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I'm also not entirely sure they were wrong. Ringo 'got it' in that regard. He was there as a supporting figure - and a damn important one, to be completely fair. Harrison probably was as well and just never embraced that supporting role. And when you look at his solo work, I think he had an inflated view of himself. And I think you're right - McCartney's ascension to the leadership role coinciding with Harrisons frustrations kinda made him the bullseye for Harrison and he never got over it.
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