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Old 06-21-2017, 01:56 PM  
Steron Steron is offline
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Biggest FA or Draft bust?

I follow the Chiefs, Orioles, NY Rangers, and Celtics. IMO, the biggest bust for each are:

Chiefs - Blackledge. But there have been some bad ones. Cassel. Bell. Saivii. Dorsey. Sims. Williams. Hill. To name a few.
Orioles - Glenn Davis. Adam Loewan.
NY Rangers - Kovalev. Drury. Lindros. Jagr.
Celtics - Len Bias.

What you got?

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Old 06-21-2017, 08:09 PM   #31
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Who was a worse reach? Jenkins or Tyson Jackson?
That's a good question, and it's kind of hard to think about given the difference in eras. We as fans know way more now than we did in the pre-internet era.

I'd probably have to say, though, that Jenkins is a bigger bust. The guy had one career start. Jackson is still playing 8 years later, even if it's not with the Chiefs.

Jackson was a bizarre pick at the time just like Jenkins. However, when you go back and look at that 2009 draft, the first round was ludicrously bad, so it's not as bizarre in retrospect. There are maybe half a dozen guys who were worth a first-round pick, if that.

1 DET Matthew Stafford QB
2 STL Jason Smith T
3 KAN Tyson Jackson DE
4 SEA Aaron Curry LB
5 NYJ Mark Sanchez QB
6 CIN Andre Smith T
7 OAK Darrius Heyward-Bey WR
8 JAX Eugene Monroe T
9 GNB B.J. Raji DT
10 SFO Michael Crabtree WR
11 BUF Aaron Maybin DE
12 DEN Knowshon Moreno RB
13 WAS Brian Orakpo LB
14 NOR Malcolm Jenkins DB
15 HOU Brian Cushing LB
16 SDG Larry English LB
17 TAM Josh Freeman QB
18 DEN Robert Ayers DE
19 PHI Jeremy Maclin WR
20 DET Brandon Pettigrew TE
21 CLE Alex Mack C
22 MIN Percy Harvin WR
23 BAL Michael Oher T
24 ATL Peria Jerry DT
25 MIA Vontae Davis DB
26 GNB Clay Matthews LB
27 IND Donald Brown RB
28 BUF Eric Wood C
29 NYG Hakeem Nicks WR
30 TEN Kenny Britt WR
31 ARI Beanie Wells RB
32 PIT Evander Hood DE
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Old 06-21-2017, 08:23 PM   #32
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2011 draft round 1 pick 26. How is that 3rd round?
I just think to myself Houston was our first that year, it helps.
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Old 06-21-2017, 10:15 PM   #33
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Does anyone know what Bell's contract looked like? The guy was great in Pittsburgh, but like Rain Man said, he was undersized and inept when he got here.

I wonder whether Gunther gave him a fat contract or knew that he was overrated.
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