2016 NFL Draft: Edge Defenders

[kccrow]

Post your scouting reports and thoughts on edge defenders (3-4 OLB/4-3 DE) here.

[Saccopoo]

Mayock just asked Joey Bosa who he models his game after and he just said he likes watching Tamba Hali, the way he uses his hands and flips his hips.

[Wilson8]

Victor Ochi - 4.86 40 - not good for a speed rusher

[kccrow]

Here's some guys that hit the "decision lens" at 3-4 OLB:

Kyler Fackrell - Utah State
6'5" 245
33-1/4" arms
10-1/8" hands
4.72 forty
15 reps
34-1/2" vertical
121" broad jump

Joshua Perry - Ohio State
6'4" 254
33-7/8" arms
10-1/4" hands
4.68 forty
20 reps
33-1/2" vertical
124" broad jump

Stephen Weatherly - Vanderbilt
6'4" 267
34-1/2" arms
10-1/4" hands
4.61 forty
23 reps
31" vertical
117" broad jump

Emmanuel Ogbah - Oklahoma State
6'4" 273
35-1/2" arms
10" hands
4.63 forty
20 reps
35-1/2" vertical
121" broad
7.26 3-cone
4.50 shuttle

Matt Judon - Grand Valley State (Div. II, MI)
6'3" 275
33-7/8" arms
9-1/2" hands
4.73 forty
30 reps
35" vertical
109 broad jump
7.67 3-cone
4.52 shuttle

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Mayock just asked Joey Bosa who he models his game after and he just said he likes watching Tamba Hali, the way he uses his hands and flips his hips.

Yeah, was watching that. He looks pretty impressive.

[kccrow]

Matt Judon is a guy that really has my attention. Very comparable measurements to Justin Houston coming out, albeit Houston has the edge on some things. Level of competition is a concern, but Judon dominated his competition (NCAA best 20 sacks in 2015). Brandon Carr (CB) came from the same school.

He's probably shot up from 6-7th round to 4-5th round.

Here's the comparison:

Judon
6'3" 275
33-7/8" arms
9-1/2" hands
4.73 forty
30 reps
35" vertical
109" broad jump
7.67 3-cone
4.52 shuttle

Houston
6'3" 270
34-1/2" arms
10-7/8" hands
4.68 forty
30 reps
35" vertical
125" broad jump
6.95 3-cone
4.37 shuttle

Here's some footage...

[Saccopoo]

Emmanuel Ogbah.

Just hit me like a truck in terms of our first round pick.

Length, size, good measurables.

He's on the short list. Conklin, Lynch, Ogbah, Apple. I think that's your four for the first round.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Emmanuel Ogbah.

Just hit me like a truck in terms of our first round pick.

Length, size, good measurables.

He's on the short list. Conklin, Lynch, Ogbah, Apple. I think that's your four for the first round.

I really like him, but after his combine there are talks he could go top 15.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I really like him, but after his combine there are talks he could go top 15.

With all of the players in the Top 15, there won't be anyone left to pick.

Someone is going to fall.

Looking at the numbers, I'm going with Conklin, Ogbah, Lynch and Apple as the four who fit the profile for our potential first round pick. One of those guys is going to be there. Maybe not though. It's going to be an interesting first round I think.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I hate picking so far back in the draft . Winning is overrated.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

With all of the players in the Top 15, there won't be anyone left to pick.

Someone is going to fall.

Looking at the numbers, I'm going with Conklin, Ogbah, Lynch and Apple as the four who fit the profile for our potential first round pick. One of those guys is going to be there. Maybe not though. It's going to be an interesting first round I think.

My opinion is this: Teams put a premium on throwing the football and stopping teams from throwing the football. Enter in QB, LT, CB, and EDGE as your premium first round positions. Those are the guys that are going to go high and even be over-drafted. Anything else, they better be an excellent physical specimen or just flat out very, very good. You get guys like Myles Jack, Ezekiel Elliott, Laquon Treadwell, Darron Lee, and Robert Nkemdiche.

Putting this thought process into perspective, I think you cross off the following:

QB: Goff, Wentz, Lynch
RB: Elliott
WR: Treadwell
OT: Stanley, Tunsil, Spriggs
EDGE: Bosa, Buckner, Lawson, Ogbah, Spence, Floyd
DT: Nkemdiche, Robinson
LB: Jack, Lee
CB: Ramsey, Alexander, Hargreaves, Apple

After that, I think you start looking at the primary guys that will fall. I think fewer DTs will go early than are currently projected. It's a good class, but there aren't that many "incredibly dominant" defensive tackles. I think WRs are really overrated and many of them will fall. There aren't any lights out safeties unless a team puts Jalen Ramsey at safety. He's a top 5 type of pick anyhow. I think Taylor Decker falls, he's not an NFL left tackle in my opinion. I think Conklin and Spriggs go before him. That said, Conklin could just as easily be there too. He's a borderline guy for me. He might be able to handle LT in the NFL, but at this point he's more of a right tackle to me. A team could take a chance though, and I think they'd do it for him before Decker. Spriggs is alot like Eric Fisher, he needs strength work but his athleticism on the edge is off the charts. I think he's going higher than projected.

[kccrow]

Patriot Prisco mocked Correa to the Jets at #20


I love Correa, and he's shooting up boards (CBS has him at #69, some guy from NFL or some shit has him at #33). He's starting to get unwarranted comparisons to Clay Matthews. I dunno man, he's a really solid player I'd take in the 2nd, but he's way to linear to be a 1st rounder in my opinion.

[CleveSteve]

I think that's a solid list, but I would not be surprised if Floyd is still around. I don't see first round player with him.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Right here you go, the Marcus Peters of DE's . I see the Chiefs have checked him out. This guy can flat out get to the QB. his first step is unbelievable. Anybody know where he's projected ? I think he got booted off Ohio State and played at Eastern Kentucky. The next Justin Houston. We need this guy.