A-Rod, HOF or "*"

[GloryDayz]

After seeing that he got his 3000th hit I was dejected. Perhaps that's because I don't like the Yankees, perhaps it's because I don't think any of the hits in his PED years should count (so he's way behind 3000). No matter what, I just think it's a terrible message to send to kids/young players that PEDs will cost you a little something, but when all is said and done the league will act like it never happened.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Some of those guys basically became incredible hulk over an off season. Not coincidentally they started to bash homers.

Did they have some kind of conference call where they all decided to use steroids at the same exact time? Guys were becoming the Incredible Hulk way before the early 90's.

Not coincidentally, the expansion era began in 1993. Strike occurred in 1994 and popularity bottoms out (coincidence? Hm....) Strike zone changes in 1996. Jacob's Field opens in 1994 which ushers in a massive era of new stadium constructions, many of which are ridiculously hitter friendly (including Coors Field).

That's a lot of hitter friendly shit happening right around 1993-94, when the home run era began to boom. That is a better explanation for me than the idea that a bunch of steroid users all decided to start using steroids... at the same exact time.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Did they have some kind of conference call where they all decided to use steroids at the same exact time? Guys were becoming the Incredible Hulk way before the early 90's.

Not coincidentally, the expansion era began in 1993. Strike occurred in 1994 and popularity bottoms out (coincidence? Hm....) Strike zone changes in 1996. Jacob's Field opens in 1994 which ushers in a massive era of new stadium constructions, many of which are ridiculously hitter friendly (including Coors Field).

That's a lot of hitter friendly shit happening right around 1993-94, when the home run era began to boom. That is a better explanation for me than the idea that a bunch of steroid users all decided to start using steroids... at the same exact time.

Roidcon 1993:

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by Valiant

He wont get in.

But he's a Yankee!

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

But he's a Yankee!

VOTES ARE INVALID BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE THE RESULTS

THROW OUT A TON OF VOTES THAT WE DON'T LIKE

RE-VOTE UNTIL ALL YANKEES GET IN

/MLB

[TEX]

Nope. Dude was using his whole life. IMO, anyone who juiced should not be enshrined into the HOF. I don't care IF everyone was doing it. Just my opinion though.

[ILChief]

If you put him in, then bonds, Clemens, McGwire, Sosa, and palmero all have to get in too

[Hootie]

it's not even a debate

they aren't going to put him in

he won't get more than 20% of the vote

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

it's not even a debate

they aren't going to put him in

he won't get more than 20% of the vote

I hope you're right brother...

[Hootie]

Oh I'm 100% right

none of these guys are getting in any time soon

I think they all should. I think McGwire / Bonds / Sosa / AROD / Clemens are all 1st ballot ... but until these old ****ers voting die, they don't have a shot in the world

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by ILChief

If you put him in, then bonds, Clemens, McGwire, Sosa, and palmero all have to get in too

All of these guys + ARod should get in. If I'm going to ding anybody it's Clemens and Palmeiro... I'm less convinced these guys are HOFers without PEDs.

[Oxford]

Originally Posted by wazu

Completely agree. Was disgusted at the "cutting over" during the Royals game the other night. Nothing he does should be celebrated or even noted.

Correct!

[GloryDayz]

So, I'm a nice guy, so instead of an asterisk, this should be his headstone..