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BIG_DADDY · 11:03 AM

After failing miserably across the country even with all the endless campaign contributions, Big Pharm have their eye’s set on the People’s Republic of California where it is business as usual even as 3 senators are being charged with criminal misconduct. As California goes so does the rest of the country, right? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/04/us...dals.html?_r=0

California has two proposals right now SB277 mandatory vaccination for all kids in school. SB792 mandatory vaccines for all day care facilities and providers. I have been to every hearing on SB277 open to the public and one on 4/29 on SB792. Some of the teeth of bill SB277 are currently being pulled due to legal concerns. Personal exemptions will be honored until that student goes to another school. Over 2k people overtook the capitol 4th floor protesting. This received a mainstream media blackout. On that note I would like to clear up some deceptions and outright lies. The media is dividing society by labeling pro-vaxxers and non-vaxxers or anti-vaxxers. You probably think the latter do not do vaccines, right? Wrong, opt out of a single dose of our ridiculous schedule and that is what you are labeled which would be almost everyone in this forum unless you one of the unfortunate kids who are on the lab rat 69 doses in 17 vaccine schedule by 18yrs.
Next I got called to the mat by Dane who insists the affluent in high end private schools are all vaccinated. PBE’s are a personal belief exemption. Plug in any high end school right here and see for yourself. I would suggest starting with the Waldorf School. http://ww2.kqed.org/stateofhealth/20...l-online/#find

So let me get this straight, people who can afford the very best doctors have the highest PBE’s? Don’t doctors, scientists and health care workers who all see the damage that is caused by vaccines have some of the highest PBE rates? Absolutely

http://vaccinefactcheck.org/2015/03/...-vaccinations/
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...fused-vaccine/
http://www.namv.org/

Do your own due diligence in this area, you will be shocked. Everything I have told you about the Sens Foundation, the Buck Institute and friends in the industry is absolutely true. It is hard to come out and be really vocal publicly when you are up against a 711 Billion Dollar behemoth dead set on destroying your career if you cross them.
Next, Fish said there is no $$$ in vaccines, once again you are being deceived. http://www.4-traders.com/news/Global...ket--20314140/
Back on topic, this is pretty much what is going on nationally and locally. http://www.bolenreport.com/autism/an...ine%20yes8.htm

I will add additional links of interest throughout this thread.

117 Vaccine injuries and deaths in three months alone
http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/march-...es-and-deaths/
Top Lobbying Industries
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/to...e=i&showYear=a
Sharyl Attkisson CBS Emmy award winning 21 year investigative journalist.
https://sharylattkisson.com/what-the...utism-studies/
Science for Sale
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mar..._b_747325.html

**Dave Lane** · 10-03-2015, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

The number of children diagnosed with autism or related disorders has grown at what many call an alarming rate. In the 1970s and 1980s, about one out of every 2,000 children had autism. Today, the CDC estimates that one in 150 8-year-olds in the U.S. has an autism spectrum disorder, or ASD.

I'm not claiming there's a correlation, but something is causing it.

Better diagnostic tools. Everyone has some form of autism according to new psychologists

Mr. Laz · 10-09-2015, 06:54 PM

HEALTH AND MEDICINE

Anti-Vaxxers Fund Study That Finds Zero Link Between Vaccinations And Autism

October 6, 2015 | by Josh L Davis

photo credit: It has been shown time and again that there is no link between vaccines and autism in children. Sura Nualpradid/Shutterstock

The overwhelming majority of scientists agree: Vaccinations do not cause autism. Study after study has shown this, and even the original research used to peddle this myth was eventually retracted due to falsified data. But this hasn’t stopped many anti-vaccination groups from still trying to create data that says otherwise, often by commissioning studies that they hope will support their ideologies.

But for one group at least, this method of funding scientific studies to prove their point seems to have backfired. A six-year study looking into the effect that vaccinations have on the neurological development and social behavior of rhesus macaque infants, funded in part by the anti-vaccination and autism advocacy group SafeMinds, concluded that there was no evidence at all for such a link.

That didn’t stop the group from claiming the results didn’t change things. In a statement, they say that they had “concerns about changes in the study design protocol and analysis that may have led to these contradictory results.” The contradiction they are referring to is the fact that they were previously given preliminary results from a smaller trial, which purported to back up their position, before the study was expanded to include more subjects and underwent more rigorous standards that eventually found zero evidence.

The study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, involved 79 infant monkeys in six groups. Two groups were given thimerosal-containing vaccines. Thimerosal is an antiseptic and antifungal agent that was frequently used in vaccinations until it was removed in the U.S from vaccines given to children in the 90s, and is frequently cited by anti-vaxxers as a cause for autism. The next two groups were given the MMR vaccine (also claimed to cause autism) without thimerosal, and the final two were given saline injections as a control.

The scientists then studied the behavior of the macaques as they interacted in social situations, looking for “autistic-like” behaviors. They found nothing. Some people diagnosed with autism have been observed to have smaller hippocampal cells and lower numbers of cells in the amygdala. After euthanizing the monkeys, the scientists conducted post-mortems on the animals’ brains, looking for these changes. They found no differences between the groups, stating that: “Our data do not support a role for thimerosal-containing vaccines in the neuropathology of autism spectrum disorder.”

Despite the researchers saying they gave their data to an independent statistical consultant, SafeMinds still want to see a reanalysis of the data. “We feel that embedded within these data sets there are animals that have potentially an adverse reaction to this vaccine schedule that would mirror what happens in human infants,” SafeMinds President Sallie Bernard told Newsweek. It seems that when you pay for the research yourself, the results can be harder to swallow.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-10-2015, 10:08 AM

I forced myself to get a flu vaccination the other day.

**hometeam** · 10-10-2015, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I forced myself to get a flu vaccination the other day.

And how are you feeling? More autistic or less?

Pitt Gorilla · 10-10-2015, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

And how are you feeling? More autistic or less?

well, my mathematical abilities appear to be about the same. I am disappoint.

Dayze · 10-10-2015, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam

And how are you feeling? More autistic or less?

**lewdog** · 10-10-2015, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

And how are you feeling? More autistic or less?

I am getting my flu shot next week. I am hoping more for Asperger's syndrome

Rasputin · 10-10-2015, 02:31 PM

I am having vision issues, losing my vision.

I can't see myself coming back to work the next week.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-10-2015, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Yea well, you never were really good at getting it sooooooooooo

RIP Big DADDY. I will always think of you when eating Olive Garden, and remember you as being the dude that thickened my skin on the internet over 10 years ago. If I ever have kids, no offense, but they're getting vaccinations. I'll take my chances on science. Be well, dear friend. Go Chiefs! But **** almost everyone of your other teams.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-10-2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

RIP Big DADDY. I will always think of you when eating Olive Garden, and remember you as being the dude that thickened my skin on the internet over 10 years ago. If I ever have kids, no offense, but they're getting vaccinations. I'll take my chances on science. Be well, dear friend. Go Chiefs! But **** almost everyone of your other teams.

His kids are ****ed.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-10-2015, 05:22 PM

I'm not really sure how I feel about this. if vaccines actually work, then those who believe in them have nothing to worry about if their children come in contact with kids who haven't been immunized.

I've had one flu shot it my life. Only because my employer was offering them free at the time. I rarely get the flu so I don't get the point.

kstater · 10-10-2015, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

I'm not really sure how I feel about this. if vaccines actually work, then those who believe in them have nothing to worry about if their children come in contact with kids who haven't been immunized.

Well other than you being wrong in how vaccinations work...

**DaFace** · 10-10-2015, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

I'm not really sure how I feel about this. if vaccines actually work, then those who believe in them have nothing to worry about if their children come in contact with kids who haven't been immunized.

I've had one flu shot it my life. Only because my employer was offering them free at the time. I rarely get the flu so I don't get the point.

The problem is that they're not. Depending on the vaccine, effectiveness rates are generally around 90-95%. That's fine as long as herd immunity takes over and protects those for whom a vaccine won't work, but when you get people that are intentionally choosing not to, herd immunity breaks down and you end up with outbreaks.

(To be clear, I'm not talking about flu vaccines, though. Those are much more of an individual protection.)

**LoneWolf** · 10-10-2015, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

I'm not really sure how I feel about this. if vaccines actually work, then those who believe in them have nothing to worry about if their children come in contact with kids who haven't been immunized.

I've had one flu shot it my life. Only because my employer was offering them free at the time. I rarely get the flu so I don't get the point.

Google "herd immunity" and then come back and edit this post so it seems less stupid.

splatbass · 10-10-2015, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

I've had one flu shot it my life. Only because my employer was offering them free at the time. I rarely get the flu so I don't get the point.

I have to get a flu shot every year because I take immune suppressing medication. It could quite literally save my life.

05-08-2015, 10:57 AM
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $5068410	Forced Vaccinations are on the way. After failing miserably across the country even with all the endless campaign contributions, Big Pharm have their eye’s set on the People’s Republic of California where it is business as usual even as 3 senators are being charged with criminal misconduct. As California goes so does the rest of the country, right? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/04/us...dals.html?_r=0 California has two proposals right now SB277 mandatory vaccination for all kids in school. SB792 mandatory vaccines for all day care facilities and providers. I have been to every hearing on SB277 open to the public and one on 4/29 on SB792. Some of the teeth of bill SB277 are currently being pulled due to legal concerns. Personal exemptions will be honored until that student goes to another school. Over 2k people overtook the capitol 4th floor protesting. This received a mainstream media blackout. On that note I would like to clear up some deceptions and outright lies. The media is dividing society by labeling pro-vaxxers and non-vaxxers or anti-vaxxers. You probably think the latter do not do vaccines, right? Wrong, opt out of a single dose of our ridiculous schedule and that is what you are labeled which would be almost everyone in this forum unless you one of the unfortunate kids who are on the lab rat 69 doses in 17 vaccine schedule by 18yrs. Next I got called to the mat by Dane who insists the affluent in high end private schools are all vaccinated. PBE’s are a personal belief exemption. Plug in any high end school right here and see for yourself. I would suggest starting with the Waldorf School. http://ww2.kqed.org/stateofhealth/20...l-online/#find So let me get this straight, people who can afford the very best doctors have the highest PBE’s? Don’t doctors, scientists and health care workers who all see the damage that is caused by vaccines have some of the highest PBE rates? Absolutely http://vaccinefactcheck.org/2015/03/...-vaccinations/ https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...fused-vaccine/ http://www.namv.org/ Do your own due diligence in this area, you will be shocked. Everything I have told you about the Sens Foundation, the Buck Institute and friends in the industry is absolutely true. It is hard to come out and be really vocal publicly when you are up against a 711 Billion Dollar behemoth dead set on destroying your career if you cross them. Next, Fish said there is no $$$ in vaccines, once again you are being deceived. http://www.4-traders.com/news/Global...ket--20314140/ Back on topic, this is pretty much what is going on nationally and locally. http://www.bolenreport.com/autism/an...ine%20yes8.htm I will add additional links of interest throughout this thread. 117 Vaccine injuries and deaths in three months alone http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/march-...es-and-deaths/ Top Lobbying Industries https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/to...e=i&showYear=a Sharyl Attkisson CBS Emmy award winning 21 year investigative journalist. https://sharylattkisson.com/what-the...utism-studies/ Science for Sale http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mar..._b_747325.html Last edited by BIG_DADDY; 05-08-2015 at 11:03 AM..
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	HEALTH AND MEDICINE Anti-Vaxxers Fund Study That Finds Zero Link Between Vaccinations And Autism October 6, 2015 \| by Josh L Davis photo credit: It has been shown time and again that there is no link between vaccines and autism in children. Sura Nualpradid/Shutterstock The overwhelming majority of scientists agree: Vaccinations do not cause autism. Study after study has shown this, and even the original research used to peddle this myth was eventually retracted due to falsified data. But this hasn’t stopped many anti-vaccination groups from still trying to create data that says otherwise, often by commissioning studies that they hope will support their ideologies. But for one group at least, this method of funding scientific studies to prove their point seems to have backfired. A six-year study looking into the effect that vaccinations have on the neurological development and social behavior of rhesus macaque infants, funded in part by the anti-vaccination and autism advocacy group SafeMinds, concluded that there was no evidence at all for such a link. That didn’t stop the group from claiming the results didn’t change things. In a statement, they say that they had “concerns about changes in the study design protocol and analysis that may have led to these contradictory results.” The contradiction they are referring to is the fact that they were previously given preliminary results from a smaller trial, which purported to back up their position, before the study was expanded to include more subjects and underwent more rigorous standards that eventually found zero evidence. The study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, involved 79 infant monkeys in six groups. Two groups were given thimerosal-containing vaccines. Thimerosal is an antiseptic and antifungal agent that was frequently used in vaccinations until it was removed in the U.S from vaccines given to children in the 90s, and is frequently cited by anti-vaxxers as a cause for autism. The next two groups were given the MMR vaccine (also claimed to cause autism) without thimerosal, and the final two were given saline injections as a control. The scientists then studied the behavior of the macaques as they interacted in social situations, looking for “autistic-like” behaviors. They found nothing. Some people diagnosed with autism have been observed to have smaller hippocampal cells and lower numbers of cells in the amygdala. After euthanizing the monkeys, the scientists conducted post-mortems on the animals’ brains, looking for these changes. They found no differences between the groups, stating that: “Our data do not support a role for thimerosal-containing vaccines in the neuropathology of autism spectrum disorder.” Despite the researchers saying they gave their data to an independent statistical consultant, SafeMinds still want to see a reanalysis of the data. “We feel that embedded within these data sets there are animals that have potentially an adverse reaction to this vaccine schedule that would mirror what happens in human infants,” SafeMinds President Sallie Bernard told Newsweek. It seems that when you pay for the research yourself, the results can be harder to swallow. __________________
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BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	I'm not really sure how I feel about this. if vaccines actually work, then those who believe in them have nothing to worry about if their children come in contact with kids who haven't been immunized. I've had one flu shot it my life. Only because my employer was offering them free at the time. I rarely get the flu so I don't get the point. __________________ 2015 Adopt-a-Chief: Tamba Hali
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