Chiefscafan's offseason for chiefs - Page 2

chiefscafan · 12:06 PM

Ok so here is my stab at it using fanspeak

5 SUMMARY AFTER FREE AGENCY
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS Change Team >>
Salary Cap: 145,000,000
Player Salaries: 136,144,672
Dead Money: 5,326,503

Carryover: 2,246,790
Reserved for Draft Picks: 5,000,000
Cap Space Remaining: 775,615

ROSTER
SIGNED PLAYERS

Position Cap Hit
Joe McKnight RB 850,000
Michael Crabtree WR 4,800,000
Jason Avant WR 1,500,000
Rodney Hudson C 6,300,000
J'Marcus Webb T 1,500,000
Justin Houston OLB 7,800,000
Jasper Brinkley ILB 1,500,000
Patrick Robinson CB 3,500,000
Antoine Cason CB 3,000,000
Ron Parker S 2,100,000
Kurt Coleman S 2,250,000
Tamba Hali OLB 1,000,000
Kraig Urbik G 2,100,000
Jake Long T 6,750,000

REST OF ROSTER
Name Position Cap Hit

Jeff Allen G 1,477,580
Dustin Colquitt P 3,800,000
Eric Kush C 624,779
Dontari Poe DT 3,601,822
Sean Smith CB 7,750,000
Donald Stephenson T 844,375
Nicholas Williams DT 510,000
Travis Kelce TE 853,826
Knile Davis RB 736,504
Mike Catapano DE 535,781
Eric Fisher T 6,051,954
James Michael Johnson ILB 660,000
Jaye Howard DT 660,000
Marcus Cooper CB 585,000
Jamell Fleming CB 660,000
De'Anthony Thomas RB 623,027
A.J. Jenkins WR 1,337,390
Eric Berry S 8,357,700
Jamaal Charles RB 4,333,335
Derrick Johnson ILB 5,250,000
Sanders Commings CB 497,378
Anthony Sherman RB 1,500,000
Allen Bailey DE 3,250,000
Husain Abdullah CB 1,145,000
Vance Walker DT 3,750,000
Cairo Santos K 510,666
Charcandrick West RB 510,000
Dee Ford OLB 1,854,250
Phillip Gaines CB 655,278
Aaron Murray QB 563,606
Zach Fulton G 544,055
Laurent Duvernay-Tardif T 543,075
Daniel Sorensen S 510,000
Albert Wilson WR 513,333
Alex Smith QB 7,400,000

ACTIONS

CUT
Name Position

Dwayne Bowe WR
Chase Daniel QB
Tamba Hali OLB
Sean McGrath TE
Donnie Avery WR
Mike DeVito DE
Anthony Fasano TE
Cyrus Gray RB
Tyler Bray QB
Joe Mays ILB
Frank Zombo OLB
Junior Hemingway WR

RESTRUCTURED
Name Position

Jamaal Charles RB
Alex Smith QB

TRANSITION TAGGED
Name Position
FRANCHISE TAGGED
Name Position

SIGNED
Name Position
Joe McKnight RB
Michael Crabtree WR
Jason Avant WR
Rodney Hudson C
J'Marcus Webb T
Justin Houston OLB
Jasper Brinkley ILB
Patrick Robinson CB
Antoine Cason CB
Ron Parker S
Kurt Coleman S
Tamba Hali OLB
Kraig Urbik G
Jake Long T

Ok now the mock draft I went with Dorsey's best available. A lot of risky players but if minds are right a pretty productive draft:

18: R1P18

QB JAMEIS WINSTON
FLORIDA STATE

49: R2P17
WR DORIAL GREEN-BECKHAM
MISSOURI

80: R3P16
CB JOSH SHAW
USC

115: R4P19
WR PHILLIP DORSETT
MIAMI
146: R5P18

G ALI MAPET
HOBART
177: R6P17

DT MARCUS HARDISON
ARIZONA STATE
208: R7P16

S TEVIN MCDONALD
EASTERN WASHINGTON

But if Winston falls it's a Dorsey move. I hate the guy but the potential is amazing. Smith , Muarry, and Winston battle it out if it's one more year or this year.

chiefscafan · 02-14-2015, 12:22 PM

According to this simulation it happened I don't think it will, but if it did might be too tempting to not take a chance.

Chief Roundup · 02-15-2015, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

18: R1P18

QB JAMEIS WINSTON
FLORIDA STATE

49: R2P17
WR DORIAL GREEN-BECKHAM
MISSOURI

80: R3P16
CB JOSH SHAW
USC

115: R4P19
WR PHILLIP DORSETT
MIAMI
146: R5P18

G ALI MAPET
HOBART
177: R6P17

DT MARCUS HARDISON
ARIZONA STATE
208: R7P16

S TEVIN MCDONALD
EASTERN WASHINGTON

Man as much as I would like to draft a QB and Winston has serious athletic upside, as much as I like the idea of trying to hit a home run on Beckham this draft leaves me very meh on the feeling of improving the team for a couple of years.
Winston would set behind Smith for at least one year, depending on injuries, but probably more like 2 years. Yes some WRs have had a decent impact thier rookie seasons, but generally not so much, when you add into the equation the offense we run with the QB we have "chucking" the ball down the field the WR position just feels like a waste.

The positive is a couple of years from now a Winston to Beckham combo sounds nice.

milkman · 02-15-2015, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Man as much as I would like to draft a QB and Winston has serious athletic upside, as much as I like the idea of trying to hit a home run on Beckham this draft leaves me very meh on the feeling of improving the team for a couple of years.
Winston would set behind Smith for at least one year, depending on injuries, but probably more like 2 years. Yes some WRs have had a decent impact thier rookie seasons, but generally not so much, when you add into the equation the offense we run with the QB we have "chucking" the ball down the field the WR position just feels like a waste.

The positive is a couple of years from now a Winston to Beckham combo sounds nice.

The reality is that the position(s) that would have the most immediate impact is O-Lineman.

Discuss Thrower · 02-15-2015, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

The Chiefs are drafting Winston at 18?

Put down the pipe.

Dunno what board he was using, but Optimum Scouting had Mariota sliding to 18 as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

The reality is that the position(s) that would have the most immediate impact is O-Lineman.

I'm not so certain.

I'd say the Chiefs can get an immediate impact from a defensive back -most likely at safety. Corner is pretty damned thin as well.

Willie Lanier · 02-15-2015, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

The Chiefs are drafting Winston at 18?

Put down the pipe.

This... Your offseason is in wonderland

milkman · 02-15-2015, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Dunno what board he was using, but Optimum Scouting had Mariota sliding to 18 as well.

I'm not so certain.

I'd say the Chiefs can get an immediate impact from a defensive back -most likely at safety. Corner is pretty damned thin as well.

If Jamaal Charles is still Jamaall Charles, then better blocking gets him back to the lofty numbers he put up a couple years ago.

If pass blocking is better then Smith can be more efficient, which means the offfense can be more efficient, and with a home run hitter at RB, more dynamic.

Better O-Line has a more immediate impact.

Discuss Thrower · 02-15-2015, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

If Jamaal Charles is still Jamaall Charles, then better blocking gets him back to the lofty numbers he put up a couple years ago.

If pass blocking is better then Smith can be more efficient, which means the offfense can be more efficient, and with a home run hitter at RB, more dynamic.

Better O-Line has a more immediate impact.

But how often does your average lineman come in Week 1 and play at an NFL caliber level?

chiefscafan · 02-15-2015, 01:25 PM

Hey I based it on the mock and cap game on that site. Now that Winston is out of shape it might happen

chiefscafan · 02-15-2015, 01:26 PM

I know bout draft but I was using his philosophy of best player available

milkman · 02-15-2015, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

But how often does your average lineman come in Week 1 and play at an NFL caliber level?

How many O-Linemen did we have that actually approached NFL caliber level?

chiefscafan · 02-15-2015, 09:20 PM

Hate to agree with milkman but he's got a point Hudson is only really quality lineman we have.

Couch-Potato · 02-18-2015, 11:00 AM

Love the first 4 picks

**The Franchise** · 02-18-2015, 11:06 AM

Fulton wasn't bad considering he was a 6th round pick and an instant starter. He had good moments and bad moments.

chiefscafan · 02-18-2015, 02:10 PM

True but if an improvement can be made at fultons position we need to do it. What everyone is forgetting bout Jeff Allen.

02-11-2015, 10:45 AM
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	Chiefscafan's offseason for chiefs Ok so here is my stab at it using fanspeak 5 SUMMARY AFTER FREE AGENCY KANSAS CITY CHIEFS Change Team >> Salary Cap: 145,000,000 Player Salaries: 136,144,672 Dead Money: 5,326,503 Carryover: 2,246,790 Reserved for Draft Picks: 5,000,000 Cap Space Remaining: 775,615 ROSTER SIGNED PLAYERS Position Cap Hit Joe McKnight RB 850,000 Michael Crabtree WR 4,800,000 Jason Avant WR 1,500,000 Rodney Hudson C 6,300,000 J'Marcus Webb T 1,500,000 Justin Houston OLB 7,800,000 Jasper Brinkley ILB 1,500,000 Patrick Robinson CB 3,500,000 Antoine Cason CB 3,000,000 Ron Parker S 2,100,000 Kurt Coleman S 2,250,000 Tamba Hali OLB 1,000,000 Kraig Urbik G 2,100,000 Jake Long T 6,750,000 REST OF ROSTER Name Position Cap Hit Jeff Allen G 1,477,580 Dustin Colquitt P 3,800,000 Eric Kush C 624,779 Dontari Poe DT 3,601,822 Sean Smith CB 7,750,000 Donald Stephenson T 844,375 Nicholas Williams DT 510,000 Travis Kelce TE 853,826 Knile Davis RB 736,504 Mike Catapano DE 535,781 Eric Fisher T 6,051,954 James Michael Johnson ILB 660,000 Jaye Howard DT 660,000 Marcus Cooper CB 585,000 Jamell Fleming CB 660,000 De'Anthony Thomas RB 623,027 A.J. Jenkins WR 1,337,390 Eric Berry S 8,357,700 Jamaal Charles RB 4,333,335 Derrick Johnson ILB 5,250,000 Sanders Commings CB 497,378 Anthony Sherman RB 1,500,000 Allen Bailey DE 3,250,000 Husain Abdullah CB 1,145,000 Vance Walker DT 3,750,000 Cairo Santos K 510,666 Charcandrick West RB 510,000 Dee Ford OLB 1,854,250 Phillip Gaines CB 655,278 Aaron Murray QB 563,606 Zach Fulton G 544,055 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif T 543,075 Daniel Sorensen S 510,000 Albert Wilson WR 513,333 Alex Smith QB 7,400,000 ACTIONS CUT Name Position Dwayne Bowe WR Chase Daniel QB Tamba Hali OLB Sean McGrath TE Donnie Avery WR Mike DeVito DE Anthony Fasano TE Cyrus Gray RB Tyler Bray QB Joe Mays ILB Frank Zombo OLB Junior Hemingway WR RESTRUCTURED Name Position Jamaal Charles RB Alex Smith QB TRANSITION TAGGED Name Position FRANCHISE TAGGED Name Position SIGNED Name Position Joe McKnight RB Michael Crabtree WR Jason Avant WR Rodney Hudson C J'Marcus Webb T Justin Houston OLB Jasper Brinkley ILB Patrick Robinson CB Antoine Cason CB Ron Parker S Kurt Coleman S Tamba Hali OLB Kraig Urbik G Jake Long T Ok now the mock draft I went with Dorsey's best available. A lot of risky players but if minds are right a pretty productive draft: 18: R1P18 QB JAMEIS WINSTON FLORIDA STATE 49: R2P17 WR DORIAL GREEN-BECKHAM MISSOURI 80: R3P16 CB JOSH SHAW USC 115: R4P19 WR PHILLIP DORSETT MIAMI 146: R5P18 G ALI MAPET HOBART 177: R6P17 DT MARCUS HARDISON ARIZONA STATE 208: R7P16 S TEVIN MCDONALD EASTERN WASHINGTON But if Winston falls it's a Dorsey move. I hate the guy but the potential is amazing. Smith , Muarry, and Winston battle it out if it's one more year or this year. Last edited by chiefscafan; 02-11-2015 at 12:06 PM..
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02-14-2015, 12:22 PM	#16
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02-15-2015, 01:25 PM	#23
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02-18-2015, 02:10 PM	#29
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