Chiefs Trade Deadline Discussion Bullshit: Chase Danielssss? - Page 4

Mr_Tomahawk · 10-23-2014, 08:33 AM

Yay or Nay?

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/1...as-city-chiefs

Does Chase Daniel have any trade value for the Kansas City Chiefs? The answer is ... probably.

In an ESPN Insider piece on backup quarterbacks who could start next year, Adam Caplan reports that at least two teams "privately" discussed the idea of trading for Daniel earlier this year. The report does not state that they called the Chiefs or had any discussions with the Chiefs. So we are in the rumor mill with this one.

Daniel signed a 3-year, $10 million deal before the 2013 season so he has one more year left on his deal after this season.

Why a trade makes sense

Tyler Bray is currently on IR. If he has developed to the point where the Chiefs might be comfortable with him as the backup in 2015, this trade idea has some merit because the Chiefs are likely not going to keep four quarterbacks. They lucked out this year when Bray was hurt during the preseason. So, for me, this hinges on Bray's development and how comfortable the Chiefs are with him as the potential backup in 2015.

Why a trade doesn't make sense

I'm sure Chiefs fans would be interested in seeing what other teams would give up for him (as would I) but I'm not all that excited about the possibility of trading Daniel barring a high draft pick. While Smith hasn't missed a game yet due to injury, it's a very real possibility that will come at some point this year or next. The Chiefs are in one of the best divisions in football which means every game is extremely important for their playoff hopes. I just don't think that the mid-round or later draft pick you might get for Daniel would be worth what he could provide in a spot start or two. The position is just too important.

Must Reads

Chiefs trading for WR? I don't see it

Joel Thorman

Tyler Bray most improved player at camp?

Joel Thorman

Daniel is a better bridge quarterback for the Chiefs than Aaron Murray or Bray right now. Again, we'll see how Bray develops but right now, Daniel has more potential value to the Chiefs than a mid-round draft pick. (I know plenty of you disagree with this -- let's hear it in the comments.)

What also factors into this is that the Chiefs are already sitting pretty with multiple compensatory picks expected in the 2015 NFL Draft. Another mid-round pick or later wouldn't be all that enticing to me compared to what Daniel could provide should he have to start a game (or multiple games) in the event of an injury.

Chances of it happening

Given Andy Reid's track record with flipping quarterbacks, this is a topic that will likely be revisited as we await the trade deadline. I wouldn't rule it out, especially if the Chiefs are comfortable with the development from Bray or Murray. The Chiefs are unlikely to keep four quarterbacks on the active roster next year so you have to a move will have to be made someplace.

Eleazar · 10-23-2014, 12:12 PM

Which is more stupid, thinking there's a trade market for Daniel, or thinking that Andy Reid is going to trade his backup QB in the middle of a playoff push...?

beach tribe · 10-23-2014, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by temper11

This seems contradictory to me. If you believe smith doesn't do anything but dump the ball off, then why would you need a high paid back up QB to do that? If that really is all he is doing, can't you count on Murray to do that or Bray when he is back from IR?

Murray, maybe.

Bray be like "Go deep"

**MahiMike** · 10-23-2014, 12:19 PM

Until Percy got traded to the Jets, I didn't even know they did this midseason. Trades never happen that I'm aware of.

**Dave Lane** · 10-23-2014, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp

Daniel is the only backup QB on the roster that would give us a chance to keep winning if Smith went down. All Smith is doing is dumping off to RBs and TEs anyway...maybe an occasional 10 yard pass to a WR that he hopes will get YAC. To trade him would be a bad decision.

Hell I can do what Alex is doing. How could Murray do less if they reined him in on going downfield?

**RealSNR** · 10-23-2014, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise

Which is more stupid, thinking there's a trade market for Daniel, or thinking that Andy Reid is going to trade his backup QB in the middle of a playoff push...?

Apparently there are teams interested in him.

Thus, there's a trade market.

kepp · 10-23-2014, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

Apparently there are teams interested in him.

Thus, there's a trade market.

But is that market hot enough for Reid to trade him? I highly doubt it. As someone mentioned earlier, we outbid at least two teams to get him because Andy likes him a lot. And now he's going to let our only experienced backup QB go for a middle round pick that we'll likely get in a compensatory package anyway?

**The Franchise** · 10-23-2014, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp

But is that market hot enough for Reid to trade him? I highly doubt it. As someone mentioned earlier, we outbid at least two teams to get him because Andy likes him a lot. And now he's going to let our only experienced backup QB go for a middle round pick that we'll likely get in a compensatory package anyway?

We outbid other teams for Daniel because our entire QB depth chart was complete shit. He knew that he had to get a starter, a capable backup and a developmental guy in here all in one offseason. If Smith goes down....this team is not making the playoffs on the back of Chase Daniel.

**RealSNR** · 10-23-2014, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp

But is that market hot enough for Reid to trade him? I highly doubt it. As someone mentioned earlier, we outbid at least two teams to get him because Andy likes him a lot. And now he's going to let our only experienced backup QB go for a middle round pick that we'll likely get in a compensatory package anyway?

Where are you getting "experienced" from?

Daniel has played ONE game in his entire career. That's like calling a virgin an experienced lover because he watches porn, reads books, and masturbates a lot.

Mr_Tomahawk · 10-23-2014, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

Where are you getting "experienced" from?

Daniel has played ONE game in his entire career. That's like calling a virgin an experienced lover because he watches porn, reads books, and masturbates a lot.

a pp roach · 10-23-2014, 01:39 PM

This whole time I thought he had been cut a long time ago.

10-23-2014, 08:33 AM
Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $2760526	Trade Deadline Discussion Bullshit: Chase Danielssss? Yay or Nay? http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/1...as-city-chiefs Does Chase Daniel have any trade value for the Kansas City Chiefs? The answer is ... probably. In an ESPN Insider piece on backup quarterbacks who could start next year, Adam Caplan reports that at least two teams "privately" discussed the idea of trading for Daniel earlier this year. The report does not state that they called the Chiefs or had any discussions with the Chiefs. So we are in the rumor mill with this one. Daniel signed a 3-year, $10 million deal before the 2013 season so he has one more year left on his deal after this season. Why a trade makes sense Tyler Bray is currently on IR. If he has developed to the point where the Chiefs might be comfortable with him as the backup in 2015, this trade idea has some merit because the Chiefs are likely not going to keep four quarterbacks. They lucked out this year when Bray was hurt during the preseason. So, for me, this hinges on Bray's development and how comfortable the Chiefs are with him as the potential backup in 2015. Why a trade doesn't make sense I'm sure Chiefs fans would be interested in seeing what other teams would give up for him (as would I) but I'm not all that excited about the possibility of trading Daniel barring a high draft pick. While Smith hasn't missed a game yet due to injury, it's a very real possibility that will come at some point this year or next. The Chiefs are in one of the best divisions in football which means every game is extremely important for their playoff hopes. I just don't think that the mid-round or later draft pick you might get for Daniel would be worth what he could provide in a spot start or two. The position is just too important. Must Reads Chiefs trading for WR? I don't see it Joel Thorman Tyler Bray most improved player at camp? Joel Thorman Daniel is a better bridge quarterback for the Chiefs than Aaron Murray or Bray right now. Again, we'll see how Bray develops but right now, Daniel has more potential value to the Chiefs than a mid-round draft pick. (I know plenty of you disagree with this -- let's hear it in the comments.) What also factors into this is that the Chiefs are already sitting pretty with multiple compensatory picks expected in the 2015 NFL Draft. Another mid-round pick or later wouldn't be all that enticing to me compared to what Daniel could provide should he have to start a game (or multiple games) in the event of an injury. Chances of it happening Given Andy Reid's track record with flipping quarterbacks, this is a topic that will likely be revisited as we await the trade deadline. I wouldn't rule it out, especially if the Chiefs are comfortable with the development from Bray or Murray. The Chiefs are unlikely to keep four quarterbacks on the active roster next year so you have to a move will have to be made someplace.
Posts: 18,407

10-23-2014, 12:12 PM	#46
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Which is more stupid, thinking there's a trade market for Daniel, or thinking that Andy Reid is going to trade his backup QB in the middle of a playoff push...?
Posts: 80,659

10-23-2014, 12:19 PM	#48
MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	Until Percy got traded to the Jets, I didn't even know they did this midseason. Trades never happen that I'm aware of. __________________ 99.9%
Posts: 17,387

10-23-2014, 01:39 PM	#55
a pp roach Veteran Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $10010545	This whole time I thought he had been cut a long time ago.
Posts: 2,047