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Old 02-01-2013, 12:00 PM  
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Hypothetical: Chip Kelly LOVES Geno Smith

Let's say that Chip Kelly really loves Geno Smith and feels that he is the one QB in this draft who could run his offense. The Chiefs aren't as sold on Geno as some of the members of this board--in fact, they have Geno and Tyler Wilson graded fairly close together.

If the Eagles are willing to trade their #4 pick, their second this year and their first next year for our #1 pick, do you pull the trigger and pick up Wilson with the #4?

Granted, Wilson being there at 4 is not a guarantee, but it is highly likely. Maybe that is why they bring in Alex Smith, insurance.

Personally, I would do it.

I think with some proper coaching from the QB Whisperer, Wilson could be a top notch QB (note: I am a Geno fan).

We have so many holes that could be filled with those two other picks (a high 2nd rounder, and lets face it; the Eagles will suck next year too so that pick should be a high first).

If Wilson can be coached to be a franchise QB, would you trade Geno for him and two other probable starters?
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:24 PM   #106
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Whoa whoa whoa...

Don't start equating shit that ain't equal.
Not taking the best QB in the draft at #1 pretty much is the same as taking a G in that spot.

(I'll spot you a crazy ass good DE as the lone exception)
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:40 PM   #107
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Good solution. I'd go with this. If I had to either trade before the draft started or not trade, I'd trade.
You do realize the Chargers didn't want to trade Eli, right?
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:45 AM   #108
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I can DEFINITELY see Geno falling to Oakland.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:49 AM   #109
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I can DEFINITELY see Geno falling to Oakland.
you can DEFINITELY go **** yourself.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:50 AM   #110
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you can DEFINITELY go **** yourself.
Kidding. Pryor will probably end up being better than Geno.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:51 AM   #111
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Kidding. Pryor will probably end up being better than Geno.
you outta ya gat damn mind
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:52 AM   #112
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you outta ya gat damn mind
Pryor is amazing throwing on the run. And can run himself.

Geno is too one dimensional.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:57 AM   #113
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Pryor is amazing throwing on the run. And can run himself.

Geno is too one dimensional.
So are you
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:00 AM   #114
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Kidding. Pryor will probably end up being better than Geno.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:19 AM   #115
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You do realize the Chargers didn't want to trade Eli, right?
Yes, so what? In this scenario, we wouldn't want Geno either, because we'd have an opportunity to get an equal QB plus some high quality picks instead.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:20 AM   #116
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Pryor is amazing throwing on the run. And can run himself.

Geno is too one dimensional.
Who's mult is this douche?
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:31 AM   #117
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It's not that it WILL.

It's that it COULD.

Why risk it?
It's a tough question, but the answer is ultimately a simple one:

Because it's really really hard to win in this league.

Think about it - a lot of us are saying that the 'risk' of taking a QB is overblown and you can't be governed by fear. We're all willing to concede that a team in the Chiefs situation can't afford to be risk-averse. Now when we have been making that argument, it's been in response to the idea that Smith is too risky a pick, but the logic holds true no matter what the question is.

So, if you like Wilson a lot and think there's a solid chance he'd be available at 4 - sure, you could take him at 1, but that's very very risk averse thinking. At that point I think you need take a big deep breath, grab your balls and pull the trigger.

The upside is immense. We're talking about still getting your QB PLUS getting the WR you need (or CB) in the 2nd PLUS potentially getting another free impact player in next year's draft.

That's a ton of return and it's a ton of return where you may still get the guy you wanted all along.

If it's okay to accept the risk of failure in Geno to get the massive upside reward, why isn't it also okay to accept the risk of losing out on Wilson to get the massive upside reward of getting Wilson, Xavier Rhodes and another premium player next season?

I'd make the deal. Actually, that's probably not true - I wouldn't make the deal because I say there is a big gap between Smith and Wilson, but the hypothetical says that I don't see a massive distinction between the two. With that prerequisite in place, I make the deal.
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