Offense vs Defense Etc....

[Marcellus]

Looking into stats after the game due to the CArr conversations and the lack of offense today I found a few interesting tidbits. To me any ways

• We are 10th in pass defense this year at 218 yards a game. This is a time where passing is top dog in the NFL.
• We are 26th and giving up 131 yards a game in rushing.
  That tells you we are getting behind and teams are running on us later.
• We are 30th in passing yards at less than 200 a game (186). See point 1.
• We are 5th in rushing at 149 a game. We rush for only 33 yards a game less than we pass?

We all know the Qb situation is killing us but damn, its really really killing us.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/statistics?team=kc



All the complaining about Carr being gone etc... is meaningless. Stick to the core issue, the QB position.


>than 200 yards a game passing for a season in this day and age? JFC kill me now.

[mcaj22]

it's a bad decision no matter how you look at it.

look at some of these teams with GOOD QBs.

the Packers have Aaron Rodgers and they always lock up CBs. they dont let Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams or Sam Shields walk out the door for nothing

Steelers have Big Ben and Ike Taylor got abused in the playoffs last year and they still didnt let him walk out the door.

the Eagles thought they had something in Vick and TRIED to bring in CBs.

The Pats have Tom Brady and they just pillaged and stole ****ing AQIB TALIB from that idiot Greg Schiano for peanuts

The Ravens JUMPED US FOR JIMMY SMITH while our shithead GM was bumbling around selling us kool aid packets on Jon Baldwin and saying Jalil Brown isnt a drop off from Jimmy Smith at Colorado to be taken later

The 49ers keep making sure Carlos Rogers stays in their back pocket

The Jets tried surrounding Sanchez's defencies by locking up Revis and Cromartie, drafting Kyle Wislon


the Seahawks evaluated and plucked Richard Sherman in the 5th round and stole Brandon Browner from Canada.


meanwhile in Kansas City... Brandon Carr walks out the door to the arms of another team for free because our GM has a massive ego and thinks his way is the right way.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

it's a bad decision no matter how you look at it.

look at some of these teams with GOOD QBs.

the Packers have Aaron Rodgers and they always lock up CBs. they dont let Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams or Sam Shields walk out the door for nothing

Steelers have Big Ben and Ike Taylor got abused in the playoffs last year and they still didnt let him walk out the door.

the Eagles thought they had something in Vick and TRIED to bring in CBs.

The Pats have Tom Brady and they just pillaged and stole ****ing AQIB TALIB from that idiot Greg Schiano for peanuts

The Ravens JUMPED US FOR JIMMY SMITH while our shithead GM was bumbling around selling us kool aid packets on Jon Baldwin and saying Jalil Brown isnt a drop off from Jimmy Smith at Colorado to be taken later

The 49ers keep making sure Carlos Rodgers stays in their back pocket

The Jets tried surrounding Sanchez's defencies by locking up Revis and Cromartie, drafting Kyle Wislon


the Seahawks evaluated and plucked Richard Sherman in the 5th round and stole Brandon Browner from Canada.


meanwhile in Kansas City... Brandon Carr walks out the door to the arms of another team for free because our GM has a massive ego and thinks his way is the right way.

None of the good teams you listed have 2 "A" level CB's. We still have Flowers.

This is not a defense of Pioli but an attack on our lack of passing offense.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Because ours will be worn out?

Keep in mind most of you posted is "depth". That s needed but not necessary for a turn around. For long term sustainability yes, but you have to start somewhere. We aren't far off given a good QB.

I know this isn't a popular stance given this season but the QB and coaching situation is making everything look 10x worse than it is.


QB is obviously the most important position in professional sports, HC may be #2. Norv has proven that I think.

depth?

a starting FS, two new starting DEs or a NT if you wanna move POE to DE, a new MLBer next to DJ and a new CB across from Flowers is... DEPTH?

are you on drugs?

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

None of the good teams you listed have 2 "A" level CB's. We still have Flowers.

.....
Revis and Cromartie
Rodgers Cromartie, Asomogha
Sherman and Browner
Ike Taylor and Keenan Lewis
Woodson, Williams and Shields
Smith and Webb
McCourty and Talib or the other idiot if you want to count McCourty at SS.

THESE ARE A LIST CBs. At one point or another in the last 4 years these players have ranked in the top 15 top 10 at CB, whether this year is a down year or not the point remains.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

depth?

a starting FS, two new starting DEs or a NT if you wanna move POE to DE, a new MLBer next to DJ and a new CB across from Flowers is... DEPTH?

are you on drugs?

We have some guys on the team that can fill some of those holes short term.

#2 CB, another DE, and a MLB are must haves.

I think you are missing the point that our poor offense makes the defense look worse than actual.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

We have some guys on the team that can fill some of those holes short term.

#2 CB, another DE, and a MLB are must haves.

I think you are missing the point that our poor offense makes the defense look worse than actual.

please name these "some guys" that can be starters on this team at said positions. Because I sure as hell dont see them and unless they are hidden at the Chiefs facility somewhere until next year, please point them out.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

.....
Revis and Cromartie
Rodgers Cromartie, Asomogha
Sherman and Browner
Ike Taylor and Keenan Lewis
Woodson, Williams and Shields
Smith and Webb
McCourty and Talib or the other idiot if you want to count McCourty at SS.

THESE ARE A LIST CBs. At one point or another in the last 4 years these players have ranked in the top 15 top 10 at CB, whether this year is a down year or not the point remains.

The Jets are not a good team.

Sherman and Browner are great and likely suspended for 4 games

Taylor and Lewis both A list? Not sure about that.

GB does not have an A list secondary, sorry. They give up 50 yards a game more than KC and unlike last year they haven't played with a lead most of their games. People run on them to keep Rodgers off the field. (19th in run defense).

Smith and Webb? Both A list? No.

Talib was gifted to NE for a reason NE does not have a player of Flowers caliber in the secondary.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

please name these "some guys" that can be starters on this team at said positions. Because I sure as hell dont see them and unless they are hidden at the Chiefs facility somewhere until next year, please point them out.

You only names 3 positions dude. Powe at DE and a new MLB #2 CB and Safety.

****ing safety shouldn't be a big issue and Hartman actually looked good today.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

The Jets are not a good team.

Sherman and Browner are great and likley suspended for 4 games

Taylor and Lewis both A list? Not sure about that.

GB does not have an A list secondary, sorry. They gove up 50 yards a gme more than KC and unlike last year they haven't played with a lead most of their games. People run on them to keep Rodgers off the field. (19th in run defense).

Smith and Webb? Both A list? No.

Talib was gifted for a reason NE does not have a player of Flowers caliber in the secondary.

what are you basing this on, because I am pretty sure you are 100 percent wrong if you are going by opinion. I know this because Ladarius Webb was like the 3rd best rated CB last season. And Smith was top 15. So you are wrong.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You only names 3 positions dude. Powe at DE and a new MLB #2 CB and Safety.

****ing safety shouldn't be a big issue and Hartman actually looked good today.

Powe at DE

and Tyson Whoeverthehellturd are your counter arguments. Guys that cant even sniff anything. Really.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Powe at DE

and Tyson Whoeverthehellturd are your counter arguments. Guys that cant even sniff anything. Really.

If we have a stud QB you wont be worried about it.

People here want a top 5 offense and top 3 defense or it wont work apparently.

Never mind no team top 10 in offense and defense has won a SB since...........

Here is a great article on it.

http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/01/...championships/

And an even better one.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...rs-stats-picks

[mcaj22]

i think people here just want talent at this point and not a bunch of shit turd draft picks and guys off the street that get outplayed every week

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

i think people here just want talent at this point and not a bunch of shit turd draft picks and guys off the street that get outplayed every week

I wouldn't argue that. Had picks like the ones we gave for Cassel, DMC, TJ, etc...panned out we wouldn't have an SOC movement going on.

[mcaj22]

you mean if any picks not named Houston in the last four years panned out.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

you mean if any picks not named Houston in the last four years panned out.

Yup Pioi is the turd in the punchbowl but its not that far from being a fixable situation IMO.

Maybe I have like a late season stupor going on, all the negativity is getting to me.