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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania
Yeah, but would any other GM had been able to lure Manning there in the first place? I recall you guys saying they were a 6 win talent team, no better.
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Elway gets all the credit in the world for luring PM to Denver. He clearly outdid everyone on that and that deal was mostly all him. But that is it. That is really all he has done significantly as GM there. That courtship led to all of the other dominoes falling into place perfectly. No way Sanders and Ware come there if PM isn't there.
Since 2012, his drafts have been shit. Now, I guess you can argue he's not a scout and that's not his job (then the argument is Denver's scouting dept. sucks), but he ultimately signs off on the picks, so he gets the credit or the criticism, win or lose.
I get why all the Denver fans love Elway. He's an icon. He went to multiple Super Bowls as a player, won two. Became GM, they got to 2 more thanks to his convincing PM to sign there. So I get the Denver love for Elway. But outside of convincing PM to sign there, he has largely done jack squat. Denver's drafts continue to get worse and worse (again, whether that's on Elway or scouting dept., take your pick). Now he's hired his old playing buddy to be head coach. You've lost one of the best defensive coordinators and schemers in the league in Wade Phillips. The defense is still very talented, but will take a hit because of that.
These reasons are why KC fans are just as excited as Denver fans that they inked him to a long term contract extension to be GM. It's not like they're gonna fire him if he has a bad 2-3 years. He's John Elway. You're stuck with him, for better or worse.
Ultimately, I guess we'll see how it turns out . . . . . . .