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BossChief 02-25-2013 05:20 PM

Geno couldn't be an option quarterback because he ran a 4.59, but Cam Newton is an option quarterback and ran a 4.59. Got it.

How how the **** did Geno NOT distance himself from the field? He was the best at EVERYTHING except he was second in vertical jump. He dominated the combine.

Geno Smith combine numbers:

4.59 40 (exactly the same as Andrew Luck and Cam Newton)

10' 4" broad (best out of everyone at the combine the last two years...again, same distance Andrew Luck jumped last year)

33.5" vertical (second to EJ Manuel in the position group)

Hammock Parties 02-25-2013 05:22 PM

Bray is basically the Joe Flacco of this draft class IMO.

Tribal Warfare 02-25-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandusksuna (Post 9437425)
Tyler Bray won't be rising anywhere. He'll stay right where he is. 2nd on the Jags draft board.

If he gets his shit together, he'll be a badass mother****ing QB.

Sorter 02-25-2013 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9437483)
Bray is basically the Joe Flacco of this draft class IMO.

He reminds me of Cutler.

Spott 02-25-2013 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9437429)
Jags are not drafting a poor man's Gabbert. Actually. I don't even think Bray's football IQ brings him to that level.

Lol, I've watched most of Gabbert's games in college and pro and I think you have your analogy backwards. Neither one is great, but Bray is a better pro prospect than Gabbert.

Deberg_1990 02-25-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9437460)
I do and it sickens me nobody has called the NFL out on it yet.

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9437465)
Yes. It's an inconvenient truth. Maybe he can just switch appearances with Sam Bradford for a few weeks. Needs to go see the guys that did this...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p3paF1tASh...f_ver6_xlg.jpg

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9437467)
Yup.

We need Whitlock to do a column about it.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2013 05:38 PM

I would have liked to have known what Geno's time was in the 3 cone and 20-yard shuttle.

But his broad jump and vertical jump were only 2 inches shorter than Cam Newton's.

The Franchise 02-25-2013 05:42 PM

Eugene Geno Smith ‏@GenoSmith_12

4.56 40, 10.4 broad jump, 34 inch vert. Yet none of this defines me as a QB! The game is won between the ears, study the tape!

BossChief 02-25-2013 05:45 PM

Someone needs to tweet Andrew Lucks numbers from last years combine to him...and Cam Newtons from the year before when he "destroyed the combine"

What the **** is wrong with he media?

Do they just not want a stud quarterback in Kansas City?

DJ's left nut 02-25-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9437434)
This is in direct contradiction to what I saw yesterday regarding Wilson. He was crap. Complete and utter crap. I don't know if they didn't show us everything but from what I saw, I wouldn't draft him any higher than 4th.

Bray was impressive and I wouldn't be surprised to see him rise into the second round. Nassib was unimpressive and I don't even think they showed Scott in throwing drills.

That article may as well written its conclusions before the combine.

"Geno Smith proved to be faster than everyone else and made all the throws....but did nothing to separate himself". Just exactly WTF else did you want him to do?

And any combine article that says that Tyler Wilson was anything other than complete crap isn't worth the bandwidth it took to post it. That's a litmus test takeaway from all of yesterday's reports: Did this person know enough about what he was watching to realize that Tyler Wilson looked like dogshit?

If not, then stop reading.

Though I agree that Bray looked decent, it's hard to say how good he looked because the group he was in was just absolute trash. He clearly stood out from the Colin Klein's of the field, but that wasn't saying much.

I wish he was in group 5 with Geno, Manuel, Scott and Wilson so we could've seen where he slotted in with those guys.

htismaqe 02-25-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9437556)
That article may as well written its conclusions before the combine.

"Geno Smith proved to be faster than everyone else and made all the throws....but did nothing to separate himself". Just exactly WTF else did you want him to do?

And any combine article that says that Tyler Wilson was anything other than complete crap isn't worth the bandwidth it took to post it. That's a litmus test takeaway from all of yesterday's reports: Did this person know enough about what he was watching to realize that Tyler Wilson looked like dogshit?

If not, then stop reading.

Though I agree that Bray looked decent, it's hard to say how good he looked because the group he was in was just absolute trash. He clearly stood out from the Colin Klein's of the field, but that wasn't saying much.

I wish he was in group 5 with Geno, Manuel, Scott and Wilson so we could've seen where he slotted in with those guys.

:bravo: :bravo: :bravo: :bravo: :bravo:

DaneMcCloud 02-25-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9437556)
That article may as well written its conclusions before the combine.

"Geno Smith proved to be faster than everyone else and made all the throws....but did nothing to separate himself". Just exactly WTF else did you want him to do?

Exactly. Mayock made similar statements yesterday. Yes, I saw the film that Mayock demonstrated as poor decisions. But with nearly 70% completion rate, isn't Smith allowed to make a few mistakes?

His comments were absurd. Either there's some kind of hidden secret about Geno Smith that no one in the media is sharing or they just can't seem to wrap their heads around the simple truth that Andrew Luck and RGIII are unique.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9437556)
I wish he was in group 5 with Geno, Manuel, Scott and Wilson so we could've seen where he slotted in with those guys.

You're right: I'd only seen Bray one time on CBS in the past two years but I'd read plenty of reports about him and the player I saw didn't fit those descriptions or the single game that I saw. So, maybe I'm jumping to conclusions because I saw a strong-armed, confident, big QB and not a whiny, scrawny little bitch.

As for the risers, E.J. Manuel clearly stood out. I had mentioned sometime in October or so that I felt he was a 4th rounder with potential but he's getting better with each passing week and clearly helped himself the most with his Combine numbers and Senior Bowl play.

I think he's moved into the second round. While I think I prefer Smith and Barkley, I wouldn't be upset if the Chiefs selected Manuel because I believe that he has a very high ceiling.

And Andy Reid would likely develop him rather quickly.

O.city 02-25-2013 06:13 PM

DJ has actually brought me to the dark side on EJ Manuel. It's going to take some work, but he's intriguing.

htismaqe 02-25-2013 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9437650)
Exactly. Mayock made similar statements yesterday. Yes, I saw the film that Mayock demonstrated as poor decisions. But with nearly 70% completion rate, isn't Smith allowed to make a few mistakes?

His comments were absurd. Either there's some kind of hidden secret about Geno Smith that no one in the media is sharing or they just can't seem to wrap their heads around the simple truth that Andrew Luck and RGIII are unique.


:bravo: :bravo: :bravo:

htismaqe 02-25-2013 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9437655)
DJ has actually brought me to the dark side on EJ Manuel. It's going to take some work, but he's intriguing.

I've come to like the idea of getting Manuel, mostly because it's better than most of the alternatives.


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