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Old 02-15-2019, 04:27 PM  
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Old 02-16-2019, 01:34 PM   #61
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Capitalism? No it isn't. The NFL is an oligopoly. You know why the owners continue to cave on these things? Because every single time somebody says "open your books" and they won't. This isn't an open market where players can go wherever they want. The owners have unusual control over it and that includes the ability to underpay their workers (whether we like it or not... Players are absolutely underpaid). So when nfl owners choose to blackball a player, there's a reason the players union takes a very keen interest to it. We have to stop comparing the NFL to ordinary businesses. Players have a ton more leverage in the NFL than most professions.

And by the way... I don't think Kaepernick is a good poster child. But I belheve Eric Reid is a blatant case of blackballing.
Players aren't forced to participate in the NFL.
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Old 02-16-2019, 01:50 PM   #62
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In bold....compared to the rest of our society? .

Yes it is capitalism. You can stay private or go public with your company. You go public offering shares, then yes you must open your books but until then......only the Packers must open their books.

Eric showed his Farrakhan colors my friend and he was as dead serious as Kaep and when he attached himself to Kaep he signed his own death warrant of never playing again.
Name another industry where you can get away with every company owner colluding on capping wages, and in this case, agreeing to blackball a player from being employed by anyone.
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Old 02-16-2019, 01:53 PM   #63
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Players aren't forced to participate in the NFL.
If players decide not to participate in the NFL, that severely hurts the owners. The players drive the popularity of the league. There's a reason the player's union is ridiculously powerful.
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:33 AM   #64
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Name another industry where you can get away with every company owner
Nothing personal here but this is where you are mistaken. The NFL is one big corporation with franchise owners. You know like McD's, Wendy's etc...... and they call the shots on wages as well.

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agreeing to blackball a player from being employed by anyone.
"Blackball" insinuates they formally came together to do this. You have no proof of that and besides you don't have to come together on a conference call to make sure all 32 toe the line. Like I said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize what is best for your bottom line after watching the ratings/$$ fall off to some degree. Kaep/Reid did this to themselves. They finally "bit the hand" that feed their NFL playing opportunities and paid a dear price for it. A dear price not playing again. But on the other hand, they made a manure load of $$ by not playing either.
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:57 AM   #65
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Nothing personal here but this is where you are mistaken. The NFL is one big corporation with franchise owners. You know like McD's, Wendy's etc...... and they call the shots on wages as well.



"Blackball" insinuates they formally came together to do this. You have no proof of that and besides you don't have to come together on a conference call to make sure all 32 toe the line. Like I said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize what is best for your bottom line after watching the ratings/$$ fall off to some degree. Kaep/Reid did this to themselves. They finally "bit the hand" that feed their NFL playing opportunities and paid a dear price for it. A dear price not playing again. But on the other hand, they made a manure load of $$ by not playing either.
But mcdonald's doesn't have a salary cap. Wages are set by the free market. If mcdonald's sets the wages too low, nobody would work there. The NFL has a unique labor agreement where they almost have a socialist system.... Jerry Jones is limited from buying out Andrew luck for $250m because the NFL as a whole wants to give small market teams a chance through a salary cap. As a fan, I get it. But it means much as incredible as it sounds, owners are allowed to underpay players in ways most businesses could not. If you want to see a true free market sports system, European soccer would be it. If mcdonald's workers go on strike, mcdonald's can shrug it off knowing every employee is easily replaceable. The NFL owners know that great football athletes are not easily replaceable (which is why the AAF has such a limited audience)

From what I recall, the lawsuit was about blackballing. Kaepernicks lawyers had to prove collusion to win. Thought I had seen reports where there were pretty blatant discussions between owners about not signing Kaepernick. Collusion is definitely illegal.
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Nothing personal here but this is where you are mistaken. The NFL is one big corporation with franchise owners. You know like McD's, Wendy's etc...... and they call the shots on wages as well.



"Blackball" insinuates they formally came together to do this. You have no proof of that and besides you don't have to come together on a conference call to make sure all 32 toe the line. Like I said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize what is best for your bottom line after watching the ratings/$$ fall off to some degree. Kaep/Reid did this to themselves. They finally "bit the hand" that feed their NFL playing opportunities and paid a dear price for it. A dear price not playing again. But on the other hand, they made a manure load of $$ by not playing either.
Reid played last year and just signed a 3 year deal.

50/50 Kaep is in the league in 2019.

Also, you’re as profound a dumbass as ever for comparing a burger flipper to an NFL player.
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Old 02-17-2019, 08:03 PM   #69
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Reid played last year and just signed a 3 year deal.

50/50 Kaep is in the league in 2019.

Also, you’re as profound a dumbass as ever for comparing a burger flipper to an NFL player.
I don’t see it. He’ll be an extremely limited 32 year old qb who was never that good to begin with and brings boatloads of baggage.

Plus, you run the risk of his deranged girlfriend calling you racist on twitter.
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From what I recall, the lawsuit was about blackballing. Kaepernicks lawyers had to prove collusion to win. Thought I had seen reports where there were pretty blatant discussions between owners about not signing Kaepernick. Collusion is definitely illegal.
Because Kaep got paid doesn't mean there is proof. But rather it much easier as some have said to pay off for this to go away than rather waste time,$$ and continual bad PR lingering for months/years.

We'll never know if there was "actual collusion" or not.
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Reid played last year and just signed a 3 year deal.
Hey, my bad. I usually don't keep up with an Alinsky Lietenent only the Alinsky General(Kaep)

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50/50 Kaep is in the league in 2019.
Hey Cave do you see team owners as "white slave owners"? If you do, why would a slave owner let their slaves have their cake and eat it as well? And since when do slaves actually earn hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars a year playing a game?

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Also, you’re as profound a dumbass as ever for comparing a burger flipper to an NFL player.
Ahhhh yes the beauty and exceptional greatness of America and it's capitalistic opportunities for all. Something your dumbass refuses to embrace and would rather play victim instead.
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Early leaks are 60-80 million dollar settlement.
Dan Patrick said that he's heard different. He knows some scouts and other guys in the league. They said that Kaepernick settled without notifying the Player's Union and that it was cheap. It was an est 10 million to Kaepernick and a donation to the charity of Kaepernick's choice of some unknown amount. Kaepernick didn't have any concrete evidence. No tape, no email proof. He was going to lose and his lawyers knew it so they took whatever deal they could get.

The reasons why the NFL settled; relatively cheap, the NFL wouldn't face the discovery process, Executives and Owners wouldn't need to testify.

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So the NFL essentially buyes the silence of Kap and Reid with regards to NFL collusion, is this correct?
Kaepernick wanted a payday and got it
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Dan Patrick said that he's heard different. He knows some scouts and other guys in the league. They said that Kaepernick settled without notifying the Player's Union and that it was cheap. It was an est 10 million to Kaepernick and a donation to the charity of Kaepernick's choice of some unknown amount. Kaepernick didn't have any concrete evidence. No tape, no email proof. He was going to lose and his lawyers knew it so they took whatever deal they could get.

The reasons why the NFL settled; relatively cheap, the NFL wouldn't face the discovery process, Executives and Owners wouldn't need to testify.

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We still know that Goodell and Kraft are good buddies and the Patriots get all the calls to get to the Super Bowl. No discovery needed. We already know.
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We still know that Goodell and Kraft are good buddies and the Patriots get all the calls to get to the Super Bowl. No discovery needed. We already know.
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