Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-18-2019, 03:41 PM  
Chiefer8989 Chiefer8989 is offline
Bleeding Chiefs Red
 
Chiefer8989's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Toronto.Born in Jasper,MO
Casino cash: $10000400
Gronk or Kelce

Two great TE's. When both were at their best, who was better? Again, this isn't about who you would rather have long term. Or necessarily about better career. Someone can have a better career yet not necessarily be better (For example Brady has had a better career than Montana. But Joe was better).
Posts: 92
Chiefer8989 has disabled reputation
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2019, 06:31 PM   #31
InChiefsHeaven InChiefsHeaven is offline
Rockin' yer FACE OFF!
 
InChiefsHeaven's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
Casino cash: $3974937
Gronk did Tide Pod ads...and probably ate them too.

Kelce does videos of eating really hot salsa and stuff.

Kelce wins.

But seriously, Gronk was ****ing insanely good when healthy, just automatic. Kelce has had his ups and downs, but has been pretty much automatic. Not as good a blocker, but not some pussy who won't block by a long shot. When he finally hangs up the cleats, ask me then. Both are HOFers, and Gronk has a longer resume. We'll see. Right now, it's a slight edge to Gronk.
__________________

We have a million reasons for failure, but not one excuse...
Die Donks, DIE!!
Holy Crap fellas!!! We did it!!! THREE TIMES!!!
Posts: 25,700
InChiefsHeaven is obviously part of the inner Circle.InChiefsHeaven is obviously part of the inner Circle.InChiefsHeaven is obviously part of the inner Circle.InChiefsHeaven is obviously part of the inner Circle.InChiefsHeaven is obviously part of the inner Circle.InChiefsHeaven is obviously part of the inner Circle.InChiefsHeaven is obviously part of the inner Circle.InChiefsHeaven is obviously part of the inner Circle.InChiefsHeaven is obviously part of the inner Circle.InChiefsHeaven is obviously part of the inner Circle.InChiefsHeaven is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2019, 06:45 PM   #32
MrCasual MrCasual is offline
Starter
 

Join Date: Oct 2019
Casino cash: $10000400
There is no comparison, Gronk is one of if not the best blocking TE in the history of the NFL. He is also one of the best receiving TE's in the history of the NFL. Kelce doesn't even crack the top 5 in NFL history. Try to stay objective, Kelce is not in Gronks class, sorry. Dude got embarrassed in last year's AFC championship game and you want to put him on Gronks level in his prime....lol
Posts: 100
MrCasual < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.MrCasual < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.MrCasual < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.MrCasual < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.MrCasual < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.MrCasual < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.MrCasual < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2019, 06:49 PM   #33
Buehler445 Buehler445 is online now
Supporter
 
Buehler445's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
Casino cash: $2434734
What officiating am I getting? Chiefs or Cheatriot. There is a material difference.
Posts: 56,727
Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2019, 07:21 PM   #34
aloyouis aloyouis is offline
Starter
 
aloyouis's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Michigan
Casino cash: $10000400
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCasual View Post
There is no comparison, Gronk is one of if not the best blocking TE in the history of the NFL. He is also one of the best receiving TE's in the history of the NFL. Kelce doesn't even crack the top 5 in NFL history. Try to stay objective, Kelce is not in Gronks class, sorry. Dude got embarrassed in last year's AFC championship game and you want to put him on Gronks level in his prime....lol
100%
Posts: 230
aloyouis < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.aloyouis < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.aloyouis < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.aloyouis < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.aloyouis < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.aloyouis < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.aloyouis < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.aloyouis < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.aloyouis < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.aloyouis < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.aloyouis < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2019, 07:49 PM   #35
Monty Monty is offline
Award Winning Tailgater
 
Monty's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $2421570
Quote:
Originally Posted by RealSNR View Post
Tony is the greatest TE of all time.

He was also perhaps the biggest ****ing asshole towards fans that I've ever seen from a Chiefs player. He wasn't just unwilling to be around them... he was actually a straight up MEAN son of a bitch towards them.

Since he has recently in so many words chosen to be recognized as an Atlanta Falcon in spite of being a Chief for over a decade, I don't really give a shit about him anymore.

Kelce is cooler, better at YAC, and he's more entertaining to watch. He loves this team and the city, and it would take something sudden and monumental for him to one day turn his back on KC like Tony did.

Oh, and **** Gronk. Nobody cares.
Exact same opinion as me, so thanks for posting this!
Posts: 3,903
Monty wants to die in a aids tree fire.Monty wants to die in a aids tree fire.Monty wants to die in a aids tree fire.Monty wants to die in a aids tree fire.Monty wants to die in a aids tree fire.Monty wants to die in a aids tree fire.Monty wants to die in a aids tree fire.Monty wants to die in a aids tree fire.Monty wants to die in a aids tree fire.Monty wants to die in a aids tree fire.Monty wants to die in a aids tree fire.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2019, 08:28 PM   #36
SupDock SupDock is offline
MVP
 
SupDock's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2017
Casino cash: $2370400
Quote:
Originally Posted by aloyouis View Post
100%
Cool. Random Patriots fans sign up to say Kelce is not in the same league as Gronk. Totally unbiased. Very believable
Posts: 7,329
SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2019, 10:29 PM   #37
203Pat 203Pat is offline
Starter
 

Join Date: Jan 2019
Casino cash: $9980400
Kelce is just a slow receiver and a moody bitch. Gronk is the greatest TE who ever lived.
Posts: 68
203Pat Loves all of Deberg's threads.203Pat Loves all of Deberg's threads.203Pat Loves all of Deberg's threads.203Pat Loves all of Deberg's threads.203Pat Loves all of Deberg's threads.
Thumbs Up 0 Thumbs Down 2     Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2019, 10:59 PM   #38
TomB TomB is offline
Starter
 
TomB's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Boston
Casino cash: $9970400
"When both were at their best, who was better?"

Answering the question as it's posed: Gronk, period.
Posts: 288
TomB < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TomB < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TomB < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TomB < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TomB < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TomB < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TomB < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TomB < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TomB < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TomB < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TomB < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
Thumbs Up 0 Thumbs Down 2     Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2019, 11:44 PM   #39
Master Chief Master Chief is offline
Starter
 
Master Chief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2019
Casino cash: $10000400
Tony Gonzalez.
Posts: 72
Master Chief is not part of the Right 53.Master Chief is not part of the Right 53.Master Chief is not part of the Right 53.Master Chief is not part of the Right 53.Master Chief is not part of the Right 53.Master Chief is not part of the Right 53.Master Chief is not part of the Right 53.Master Chief is not part of the Right 53.Master Chief is not part of the Right 53.Master Chief is not part of the Right 53.Master Chief is not part of the Right 53.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2019, 01:15 AM   #40
MAHOMO 4 LIFE! MAHOMO 4 LIFE! is offline
In Search of a Life
 
MAHOMO 4 LIFE!'s Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2018
Casino cash: $6880400
Kelce is just consistent asf. He is #4 in receiving yards for players this year.... he’s a TE
Posts: 21,162
MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2019, 08:11 AM   #41
oldman oldman is offline
Curmudgeon
 
oldman's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: North by Northwest
Casino cash: $5836784
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink View Post
It's a wash at this point.

Gronk a better blocker.
Gronk had better consistent hands.
Kelce more athletic
Kelce better speed
Kelce runs better routes

Both are gamers in the red zone with Gronk having the slight edge only because TB was throwing to him and Kelce had Smith BUT things have changed in KC

Maybe when it is all said and done for Kelce, PM2 will have vaulted Kelce above Gronk and make it into the HOF with better stats.
I agree with most of this. The only thing I disagree on is that Kelce will move ahead of Gronk. The reason is he won't have PMII his entire career. If I have to choose, it's Kelce, hands down.
As to the question is Kelce better than Gonzalez? Take a look at who was throwing to TG in his 1st 4 years and his last 2 in KC. Even if his was a dick to KC fans, you have to admit his stats are pretty impressive. But I still go with Kelce.
Posts: 5,319
oldman is too fat/Omaha.oldman is too fat/Omaha.oldman is too fat/Omaha.oldman is too fat/Omaha.oldman is too fat/Omaha.oldman is too fat/Omaha.oldman is too fat/Omaha.oldman is too fat/Omaha.oldman is too fat/Omaha.oldman is too fat/Omaha.oldman is too fat/Omaha.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2019, 10:01 AM   #42
Tribal Warfare Tribal Warfare is offline
The Boom Boom Room
 
Tribal Warfare's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Far Beyond Comprehension
Casino cash: $1032813
Quote:
Originally Posted by 203Pat View Post
Kelce is just a slow receiver and a moody bitch. Gronk is the greatest TE who ever lived.
GOAT TE is Gonzalez
__________________
Posts: 42,015
Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2019, 05:27 PM   #43
CrookedTrump CrookedTrump is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Jan 2019
Casino cash: $10000400
No offense but only on a Chiefs message board would this be asked. Who is better at thier best? Gronk when healthy was arguably the biggest mismatch in NFL history. His clutch big performances (including playoffs and SBs) are legendary. His blocking was as good if not better as most offensive lineman. His catch radius was as big as it gets - and once he caught it good luck tackling him.

His only downfall was the injuries, Kelce has him on that.
Posts: 106
CrookedTrump < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.CrookedTrump < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.CrookedTrump < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.CrookedTrump < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.CrookedTrump < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.CrookedTrump < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.CrookedTrump < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.CrookedTrump < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.CrookedTrump < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.CrookedTrump < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.CrookedTrump < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2019, 11:43 PM   #44
Imon Yourside Imon Yourside is offline
WhatUneed2Hear
 
Imon Yourside's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: AllSoulsMatter
Casino cash: $2743181
Quote:
Originally Posted by TomB View Post
"When both were at their best, who was better?"

Answering the question as it's posed: Gronk, period.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 203Pat View Post
Kelce is just a slow receiver and a moody bitch. Gronk is the greatest TE who ever lived.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCasual View Post
There is no comparison, Gronk is one of if not the best blocking TE in the history of the NFL. He is also one of the best receiving TE's in the history of the NFL. Kelce doesn't even crack the top 5 in NFL history. Try to stay objective, Kelce is not in Gronks class, sorry. Dude got embarrassed in last year's AFC championship game and you want to put him on Gronks level in his prime....lol
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare View Post
Gronk, and I hate saying that but he had more reliable hands, didn't have that mental lapse and drop a routine catch like Travis does.

Rob was a better blocker too
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyecopeland View Post
Gronk was a better blocker
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrookedTrump View Post
No offense but only on a Chiefs message board would this be asked. Who is better at thier best? Gronk when healthy was arguably the biggest mismatch in NFL history. His clutch big performances (including playoffs and SBs) are legendary. His blocking was as good if not better as most offensive lineman. His catch radius was as big as it gets - and once he caught it good luck tackling him.

His only downfall was the injuries, Kelce has him on that.


__________________
"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" Peter 5:8

"Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay" Isaiah 29:16

"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." Revelation 3:20
Posts: 44,093
Imon Yourside is obviously part of the inner Circle.Imon Yourside is obviously part of the inner Circle.Imon Yourside is obviously part of the inner Circle.Imon Yourside is obviously part of the inner Circle.Imon Yourside is obviously part of the inner Circle.Imon Yourside is obviously part of the inner Circle.Imon Yourside is obviously part of the inner Circle.Imon Yourside is obviously part of the inner Circle.Imon Yourside is obviously part of the inner Circle.Imon Yourside is obviously part of the inner Circle.Imon Yourside is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2019, 02:47 AM   #45
Chargem Chargem is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Feb 2018
Casino cash: $4020400
I thought this was going to be a difficult question, like "who would you rather hold your beer while you bang a pornstar, Gronk or Kelce?"

Now that is tricky. I feel like Gronk would want a lot of high fives, but Kelce would talk a lot more about what you were doing and stuff?

I think I'd have to go Kelce, because at the end of the day I don't think I could trust Gronk to remember the beer wasn't his and sip it.
Posts: 2,268
Chargem 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChargem 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChargem 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChargem 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChargem 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChargem 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChargem 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChargem 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChargem 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChargem 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChargem 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
    Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:49 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.