*.* NEW- 2014 General Fitness Thread *.*

[penguinz]

I guess we filled up the old one... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=280149

Welcome to 2014! Now get your ass in top physical condition!

No one else started it so here it is!

**From the 2013 Thread**

If you want to get back into lifting, or need a new lifting routine, START HERE:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

If you have questions about the SS programs, look here:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ

Keep in mind that you're a novice lifter for a longer period of time than you think you are. Novice lifting can last anywhere from a few months to a year or two, depending on how hard you hit the weights and where you started.

Once you've reached the point where you don't make regular progress on the SS program, you are ready to move on to the intermediate stage, which can last you for a good number of years. Find it HERE:

http://madcow.hostzi.com/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

If you're a very advanced lifter (many, many years of CONSISTENT weight training), then there are lot of programs out there, and which one you pick is simply a matter of preference. If you're really that advanced, you should know what works for you and what doesn't by this point.

[lewdog]

I'd have sex in the back of your M5.

Just saying.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I'd have sex in the back of your M5.

Just saying.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by lewdog

X-ray on my shoulder yesterday, insurance makes you do cheap option even though I know I'll need an MRI after. MRI has to then get approved in X-ray shows nothing. Hurt near the back on my shoulder benching back on June 16th. I've done as much rest, ice and rotator cuff exercises since then and it's still not better and severely limiting my pressing. I'm worried something like a small tear might be present so getting it checked out. It's gotten better but still quite a bit of discomfort back there with rotation or pressing with elbow out to the side. I'm thinking something with the Supraspinatus, if I was to self diagnose this. More pain on eccentric part of lift. Can Military Press with no issues though.

****.

BOO. Injuries are lame. Injuries that require surgery are even lamer.

[Simply Red]

Did we get Phil Free's question addressed?

[ThaVirus]

I just watched a bunch of Elliott Hulse's videos on YouTube. In one vid he was talking about deadlifting "well over 600 lbs".

I don't feel like a man any more.

[RobBlake]

whats a good rate of increasing weight at benchpress? What are the general goals?

i'm trying to bench 3x a week.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by RobBlake

whats a good rate of increasing weight at benchpress? What are the general goals?

i'm trying to bench 3x a week.

Depends on how long you've been lifting.

If you're just starting, you should be able to increase every week without any problem.

If you've been lifting for longer, every 3-4 weeks.

Longer than that, and you'll be happy with every month or two with a small increase.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

This is the real sticking point for it with me I guess.

I work out with a guy who competes in the "fitness" competition level and he's clean and says the same thing.

I'm not really sure what it means by "once your on it, your on it for life." Even with the lower doses that are generally associated with TRT?

I wouldn't really be thrilled with having to take a year or more to rebalance my natural test levels if I decide to stop lifting/using on a TRT program. And that's if they ever get naturally rebalanced once I come off it.

So the way your body sees it, your supplementing your testosterone via a shot, so it says "hey boys, slow down on producing T, there is enough free T in the bloodstream". So they slow or stop production depending on how much free T you have. This is why its important to have bloodwork done. Your going to have your natural production slowed down to a crawl whether you take 100mg/week or 700mg/week because usually 100-200mg/week will get you to the UPPER range of your bodys natural limit.

Also, most guys on TRT will "blast and cruise". what this means is your on your normal TRT dose, lets say 150mg/week. For short 4-8 week bursts, you go up to 5/6/7mg/week to gain a little more mass, then go back down to TRT level. What this does is allow you to keep a good portion of what you gained. Normally guys will jump on 500mg/week "cycle" and then when they come off, guess what? gains go BYE-BYE because your T levels CRASHED and you have no hormone to SUPPORT all the new muscle.

I don't carry anything NEAR the size I had back in college when I was experimenting. I am open about this stuff and I feel steroids get a bad rap because of the amount of MISUSE from kids doing absolutely zero research. I think low dose test is absolutely fine, and you can cycle in smaller 'blasts' if so desire.

My cycle "history":

college football era as a freshman I did a stupid first 10 cycle of 1g/week Sustanon. For those of you that dont know, Sust is a mix of different Test esters, all of which have different half-lifes. Estrogen fluctuated too frequently, making me a strong, horny and over sensitive son of a bitch. Did no research, did not PCT at all, and learned the hard way on how to recover natural production back.

fast forward into my 30's, I started to get serious with powerlifting, and had tested on the 'lower range' of natural T, so I sad why not try some stuff before getting on TRT. Did my homework, bought some books about anabolics and how the body reacts to these chemicals/hormones, and did some very light cycles.

400mg/wk Test propinate, 50mg/day proviron - ran this for 12 weeks straight. Awesome gains with zero bloating. PCT correctly, kept about 65% of the strength I gained. Libido was insane due to the proviron. proviron also has anti-estrogen properties which is why I love it and wish more people would use this.

Waited another 4 months or so and tried the SAME thing but with ANOTHER compound added, to see how my body reacted.

400mg/wk test prop, 50mg/day proviron, 300mg/week NPP (nandrolone phenyl prop). The NPP was no joke. strength went through the roof, way too fast. Problem with that is your JOINTS cant keep up with that. Stopped mid cycle as my elbow tendonitis was insane.

Waited 2 years after that, had two kids, then got on TRT. My insurance doesn't cover ANY of it, so I basically buy from a trusted UGL (some guy making it in his sink probably) and run 50mg, sometimes 75mg of test prop EoD or every third day, depending on how busy life is. I get frequent bloodwork done to make sure everything is working accordingly. I ended up separating my shoulder getting back into powerlifting, so now I just 'train to look good'.

All of this is just my opinion, but I like throwing this info out there for people that are looking for real life experience with the stuff. I have friends that do WAY TOO MUCH and there is no way in hell I am going down that route.

[Simply Red]

How have you been Aspengc8? hope all is well.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by Silock

BOO. Injuries are lame. Injuries that require surgery are even lamer.

I have three that need surgery. Totally lame.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

How have you been Aspengc8? hope all is well.

Been busy.. kids are killing me

I am starting to get pumped for the season though.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

Been busy.. kids are killing me

I am starting to get pumped for the season though.

That's cool man - me too. I'm driving to KC i think - possibly sitting w/ Sedated now for the Denver game - I think I'm staying at that Marriott downtown or possibly Airport. Not quite sure yet. I may be bringin a poster named Jagerdrinker - who I graduated from Blue Springs High w/. Nothing is for sure yet. Maybe I'll run into you and others -

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Silock

Depends on how long you've been lifting.

If you're just starting, you should be able to increase every week without any problem.

If you've been lifting for longer, every 3-4 weeks.

Longer than that, and you'll be happy with every month or two with a small increase.

How have you been my Lord?

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

That's cool man - me too. I'm driving to KC i think - possibly sitting w/ Sedated now for the Denver game - I think I'm staying at that Marriott downtown or possibly Airport. Not quite sure yet. I may be bringin a poster named Jagerdrinker - who I graduated from Blue Springs High w/. Nothing is for sure yet. Maybe I'll run into you and others -

I live in NY bud. Hit me up any time you want to go to a Giants/Jets game lol.

[el borracho]

What do you mean by "blood work"? What, specifically, are you testing for? How often are you performing that test? And how do you make the arrangement? Do you just walk into the doctor's office and say, "I'm on trt, please test my blood".