Chiefs Who should be the next FIVE Chiefs Ring of Honor inductees? - Page 3

**Rain Man** · 06:39 PM

They select one person per year for this honor. It appears that there's a general policy of waiting until the person has been retired from the NFL for at least five seasons, regardless of whether it's retired from the Chiefs or some other team. For that reason, I'm not including any active NFL players on this list. So no voting for Patrick Mahomes II or Derrick Johnson.

From the list in the lengthy poll to follow, pick the FIVE people who you think SHOULD be the next five. (This is not who you think WILL be, but who you think SHOULD be.)

Gimme a minute on the poll.

As background, here are the guys already on the Ring. Or in the Ring. Not sure of the terminology.

1970s
1970*Lamar Hunt, team founder and owner
1971 #36*Mack Lee Hill, Running back
1972 #75*Jerry Mays, Defensive tackle
1973 #84*Fred Arbanas, Tight end
1974 #42*Johnny Robinson, Safety
1975 #88*Chris Burford, Wide receiver
1976 #55*E. J. Holub, Center/Linebacker
1977 #77*Jim Tyrer, Offensive tackle
1978 #21*Mike Garrett, Running back
1979 #16*Len Dawson, Quarterback

1980s
1980 #78*Bobby Bell, Linebacker
1981 #86*Buck Buchanan, Defensive tackle
1982 #89*Otis Taylor, Wide receiver
1983*No induction
1984 #71*Ed Budde, Guard
1985 #63*Willie Lanier, Linebacker
1986 #18*Emmitt Thomas, Cornerback
1987*Hank Stram, Coach
1988 #44*Jerrel Wilson, Punter
1989 #14*Ed Podolak, Running back

1990s
1990 #51*Jim Lynch, Linebacker
1991 #28*Abner Haynes, Running back
1992 #3*Jan Stenerud, Kicker
1993 #69*Sherrill Headrick, Linebacker
1994 #58*Jack Rudnay, Center
1995 #32*Curtis McClinton, Running back
1996 #20*Deron Cherry, Safety
1997 #73*Dave Hill, Offensive tackle
1998 #67*Art Still, Defensive end
1999 #34*Lloyd Burruss, Cornerback

2000s
2000 #35*Christian Okoye, Running back
2001 #58*Derrick Thomas, Linebacker
2002 #76*John Alt, Offensive tackle
2003 #59*Gary Spani, Linebacker
2004 #37*Joe Delaney, Running back
2005*Jack Steadman, team vice chairman and general manager
2006 #90*Neil Smith, Defensive end
2007 #29*Albert Lewis, Cornerback
2008 #61*Curley Culp, Defensive tackle
2009 #8*Nick Lowery, Place kicker

2010s
2010*Marty Schottenheimer, Coach
2011 #31*Kevin Ross, Cornerback*
2012 #68*Will Shields, Guard*
2013 #26*Gary Barbaro, Defensive back*
2014 #31*Priest Holmes, Running back
2015 #24*Gary Green, Cornerback*
2016 #49*Tony Richardson, Fullback*
2017 #88*Carlos Carson, Wide Receiver*
2018 #88*Tony Gonzalez, Tight End

**Rain Man** · 09-19-2018, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Brian Waters - 11 seasons/149 starts/5 Pro Bowls/2 All Pros
Jerome Woods - 10 seasons/105 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros
Kimble Anders - 10 seasons/94 starts/3 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros
Tim Grunhard - 11 seasons/164 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros
Trent Green - 6 seasons/88 starts/2 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros

These are my 5 choices. I would had voted for Charles and Hali, but Hali haven't announced his retirement (at least not to my knowledge), but it's pretty safe to assume that he is retired. And Charles is still considered an active player as a unsigned free agent, so he shouldn't be on the list as well.

Yeah, I debated those guys because they're still technically active players, but when no one signs you by the first two weeks of the season I figure you're a long shot to keep playing. They'd be eligible at the end of my five-year period if they stay on their current track.

**Rain Man** · 09-19-2018, 10:26 PM

It's still early in the polling, but patterns are emerging. If Tamba and Jamaal are only eligible at the end of the period, our current take on the most deserving guys would be:

2019 induction: Brian Waters
2020 induction: Dante Hall
2021 induction: Tim Grunhard
2022 induction: Willie Roaf
2023 induction: Jamaal Charles
2024 induction: Tamba Hali

Let's see how close we are.

It looks like we also view Carl Peterson, Dale Carter, Dave Szott, James Hasty, Kimble Anders, and Trent Green as viable candidates who may just have to wait a bit.

Carl's reputation is rehabbing over time.

I'm intrigued by the contrast between Willie Roaf and Jared Allen. Both were here for four years and they started about the same number of games. Willie was certainly more established and got more honors for that reason, but Jared was a home-grown surprise star who was ascending rapidly. Why are we voting more for Willie than for Jared? Was it just the fact that Jared left? Was it the DUI stuff off the field? I'm curious.

Prison Bitch · 09-19-2018, 10:33 PM

My pick is Hot Carl

CoMoChief · 09-19-2018, 10:50 PM

Brian Waters
Carl Peterson
Dante Hall
Jamaal Charles
Tamba Hali

Mephistopheles Janx · 09-19-2018, 10:50 PM

Kimble Anders doesn't get near the love he deserves.

Beef Supreme · 09-19-2018, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

I say just put Mahomes in there now.

Came here to post this.

CoMoChief · 09-19-2018, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx

Kimble Anders doesn't get near the love he deserves.

Kimble Anders used to be ZachKC's neighbor back in the day.

scho63 · 09-20-2018, 12:39 AM

I love you Rainman and all your polls as you put so much energy and effort into them.

However this poll sucks and is a bridge too far. Just too much.

You just pulled a Fonzie and jumped the shark!

Eleazar · 09-20-2018, 07:15 AM

voting for Benedict Charles

**Rain Man** · 09-20-2018, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63

I love you Rainman and all your polls as you put so much energy and effort into them.

However this poll sucks and is a bridge too far. Just too much.

You just pulled a Fonzie and jumped the shark!

Don't be Maine.

TLO · 09-20-2018, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

Larry Johnson is a criminal

FIFY

KChiefs1 · 09-20-2018, 07:54 AM

Waters is the obvious choice.

FloridaMan88 · 09-20-2018, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz

No Eric Warfield?

He's eligible for the Ring of Mediocrity.

oldman · 09-20-2018, 09:21 AM

I'm only going with 4 right now, with a save-the-space for 1 more. In this order:
Waters-What a pro, on and off the field. Winner of the Walter Payton Award. I curse the GM never to be mentioned for letting him go.
Grunhard-A rock on the line.
Hall-One of the most electrifying returners of all time.
Tamba-It's too bad his injuries keep him from being a close 2nd to DT.
I'm going to save a place for Jamaal, but it's not going to be right now.

DJ's left nut · 09-20-2018, 09:27 AM

Waters
Charles
Carter
Hali

And one spot intentionally left blank because Derrick Johnson is clearly the other deserving candidate. I'm a 'small ring' guy so if they just went a year or two without putting someone like Anders in there, I'm fine with that.

Most of the others weren't on the squad long enough for my tastes. Willie Roaf would get the 'Sandy Koufax' exception but/for the fact that he quit immediately prior to training camp and left us with no ability to cover the hole for him. Unsurprisingly, Trent Green's brains were immediately turned to scrambled eggs after his replacement (was it Jordan Black?) ate shit and the RB had to try to cover for him, leaving nobody to chip the guy in the middle so Green got flushed and eventually murdered by a shot that would've had Gaethers suspended had he hit Manning. Of course he wasn't even flagged.

Because - Chiefs.

EDIT: Grunhard can also bite it because the rumors are that he steers kids away from Mizzou at Bishop Miege.

View Poll Results: Who SHOULD be the next FIVE Ring of Honor Inductees? (Select exactly five.)
Al Reynolds - 8 seasons/16 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	0	0%
Bill Kenney - 9 seasons/77 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	2	2.41%
Bill Maas - 9 seasons/111 starts/2 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	5	6.02%
Bobby Hunt - 6 seasons/ starts/1 Pro Bowls/1 All Pros	0	0%
Branden Albert - 6 seasons/83 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	2	2.41%
Brandon Flowers - 6 seasons/87 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	2	2.41%
Brian Waters - 11 seasons/149 starts/5 Pro Bowls/2 All Pros	60	72.29%
Carl Peterson - GM for 20 seasons/176-143-1 record/3-9 playoff record	19	22.89%
Casey Wiegmann - 11 seasons/143 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	1	1.20%
Charlie Getty - 9 seasons/103 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	0	0%
Dale Carter - 7 seasons/88 starts/4 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	18	21.69%
Dan Saleaumua - 8 seasons/116 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	8	9.64%
Dante Hall - 7 seasons/10 starts/2 Pro Bowls/1 All Pros	25	30.12%
Dave Grayson - 4 seasons/9 starts/3 Pro Bowls/1 All Pros	1	1.20%
Dave Lutz - 10 seasons/123 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	2	2.41%
Dave Szott - 11 seasons/136 starts/0 Pro Bowls/1 All Pros	15	18.07%
Dick Vermeil - Head coach for 5 seasons/44-36 record/0-1 playoff record	4	4.82%
Dino Hackett - 6 seasons/82 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	1	1.20%
Donnie Edwards - 13 seasons/100 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	7	8.43%
Dwayne Bowe - 8 seasons/112 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	5	6.02%
Ed Lothamer - 9 seasons/14 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	0	0%
Eddie Kennison - 7 seasons/85 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	3	3.61%
Eric Hicks - 9 seasons/104 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	2	2.41%
Greg Wesley - 8 seasons/103 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	0	0%
Henry Marshall - 12 seasons/135 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	3	3.61%
J.T. Smith - 7 seasons/48 starts/1 Pro Bowls/1 All Pros	0	0%
Jamaal Charles - 9 seasons/69 starts/4 Pro Bowls/2 All Pros	60	72.29%
James Hasty - 6 seasons/90 starts/2 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	11	13.25%
Jared Allen - 4 seasons/55 starts/1 Pro Bowls/1 All Pros	1	1.20%
Jerome Woods - 10 seasons/105 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	3	3.61%
Jim Kearney - 9 seasons/115 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	5	6.02%
Jim Marsalis - 7 seasons/62 starts/2 Pro Bowls/1 All Pros	2	2.41%
John Browning - 10 seasons/96 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	0	0%
Jon Gilliam - 7 seasons/70 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	0	0%
Kimble Anders - 10 seasons/94 starts/3 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	18	21.69%
Larry Johnson - 7 seasons/55 starts/2 Pro Bowls/1 All Pros	6	7.23%
Marcus Allen* - 5 seasons/53 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	4	4.82%
Matt Herkenhoff - 10 seasons/122 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	0	0%
Mel Branch - 6 seasons/27 starts/3 Pro Bowls/1 All Pros	1	1.20%
Mike Bell - 13 seasons/99 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	1	1.20%
Mike Livingston - 12 seasons/75 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	0	0%
Rich Baldinger - 10 seasons/92 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	0	0%
Stephone Paige - 9 seasons/81 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	5	6.02%
Tamba Hali - 12 seasons/157 starts/5 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	54	65.06%
Tim Grunhard - 11 seasons/164 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	25	30.12%
Tom Condon - 11 seasons/131 starts/0 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	2	2.41%
Trent Green - 6 seasons/88 starts/2 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	23	27.71%
Walt Corey - 7 seasons/10 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros	0	0%
Willie Roaf* - 4 seasons/58 starts/4 Pro Bowls/2 All Pros	24	28.92%
Some other 5+ year retired Chief not on this list.	1	1.20%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

09-19-2018, 06:23 PM
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3348491 VARSITY	Who should be the next FIVE Chiefs Ring of Honor inductees? They select one person per year for this honor. It appears that there's a general policy of waiting until the person has been retired from the NFL for at least five seasons, regardless of whether it's retired from the Chiefs or some other team. For that reason, I'm not including any active NFL players on this list. So no voting for Patrick Mahomes II or Derrick Johnson. From the list in the lengthy poll to follow, pick the FIVE people who you think SHOULD be the next five. (This is not who you think WILL be, but who you think SHOULD be.) Gimme a minute on the poll. As background, here are the guys already on the Ring. Or in the Ring. Not sure of the terminology. 1970s 1970Lamar Hunt, team founder and owner 1971 #36Mack Lee Hill, Running back 1972 #75Jerry Mays, Defensive tackle 1973 #84Fred Arbanas, Tight end 1974 #42Johnny Robinson, Safety 1975 #88Chris Burford, Wide receiver 1976 #55E. J. Holub, Center/Linebacker 1977 #77Jim Tyrer, Offensive tackle 1978 #21Mike Garrett, Running back 1979 #16Len Dawson, Quarterback 1980s 1980 #78Bobby Bell, Linebacker 1981 #86Buck Buchanan, Defensive tackle 1982 #89Otis Taylor, Wide receiver 1983No induction 1984 #71Ed Budde, Guard 1985 #63Willie Lanier, Linebacker 1986 #18Emmitt Thomas, Cornerback 1987Hank Stram, Coach 1988 #44Jerrel Wilson, Punter 1989 #14Ed Podolak, Running back 1990s 1990 #51Jim Lynch, Linebacker 1991 #28Abner Haynes, Running back 1992 #3Jan Stenerud, Kicker 1993 #69Sherrill Headrick, Linebacker 1994 #58Jack Rudnay, Center 1995 #32Curtis McClinton, Running back 1996 #20Deron Cherry, Safety 1997 #73Dave Hill, Offensive tackle 1998 #67Art Still, Defensive end 1999 #34Lloyd Burruss, Cornerback 2000s 2000 #35Christian Okoye, Running back 2001 #58Derrick Thomas, Linebacker 2002 #76John Alt, Offensive tackle 2003 #59Gary Spani, Linebacker 2004 #37Joe Delaney, Running back 2005Jack Steadman, team vice chairman and general manager 2006 #90Neil Smith, Defensive end 2007 #29Albert Lewis, Cornerback 2008 #61Curley Culp, Defensive tackle 2009 #8Nick Lowery, Place kicker 2010s 2010Marty Schottenheimer, Coach 2011 #31Kevin Ross, Cornerback* 2012 #68Will Shields, Guard 2013 #26Gary Barbaro, Defensive back 2014 #31Priest Holmes, Running back 2015 #24Gary Green, Cornerback* 2016 #49Tony Richardson, Fullback 2017 #88Carlos Carson, Wide Receiver 2018 #88Tony Gonzalez, Tight End Last edited by Rain Man; 09-19-2018 at 06:39 PM..*
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09-19-2018, 10:26 PM	#32
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3348491 VARSITY	It's still early in the polling, but patterns are emerging. If Tamba and Jamaal are only eligible at the end of the period, our current take on the most deserving guys would be: 2019 induction: Brian Waters 2020 induction: Dante Hall 2021 induction: Tim Grunhard 2022 induction: Willie Roaf 2023 induction: Jamaal Charles 2024 induction: Tamba Hali Let's see how close we are. It looks like we also view Carl Peterson, Dale Carter, Dave Szott, James Hasty, Kimble Anders, and Trent Green as viable candidates who may just have to wait a bit. Carl's reputation is rehabbing over time. I'm intrigued by the contrast between Willie Roaf and Jared Allen. Both were here for four years and they started about the same number of games. Willie was certainly more established and got more honors for that reason, but Jared was a home-grown surprise star who was ascending rapidly. Why are we voting more for Willie than for Jared? Was it just the fact that Jared left? Was it the DUI stuff off the field? I'm curious. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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09-19-2018, 10:33 PM	#33
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8052254	Brian Waters Carl Peterson Dante Hall Jamaal Charles Tamba Hali __________________
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09-20-2018, 12:39 AM	#38
scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $2801110	I love you Rainman and all your polls as you put so much energy and effort into them. However this poll sucks and is a bridge too far. Just too much. You just pulled a Fonzie and jumped the shark! __________________ *"The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!"* ~Redd Foxx~ ~~2018 2019 2020 20212022 2023~~ 2024 Adopt a Chief - Clark Hunt and Brett Veach "The men who drafted Patrick Mahomes"
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09-20-2018, 09:21 AM	#44
oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	I'm only going with 4 right now, with a save-the-space for 1 more. In this order: Waters-What a pro, on and off the field. Winner of the Walter Payton Award. I curse the GM never to be mentioned for letting him go. Grunhard-A rock on the line. Hall-One of the most electrifying returners of all time. Tamba-It's too bad his injuries keep him from being a close 2nd to DT. I'm going to save a place for Jamaal, but it's not going to be right now.
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09-20-2018, 09:27 AM	#45
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $3029099	Waters Charles Carter Hali And one spot intentionally left blank because Derrick Johnson is clearly the other deserving candidate. I'm a 'small ring' guy so if they just went a year or two without putting someone like Anders in there, I'm fine with that. Most of the others weren't on the squad long enough for my tastes. Willie Roaf would get the 'Sandy Koufax' exception but/for the fact that he quit immediately prior to training camp and left us with no ability to cover the hole for him. Unsurprisingly, Trent Green's brains were immediately turned to scrambled eggs after his replacement (was it Jordan Black?) ate shit and the RB had to try to cover for him, leaving nobody to chip the guy in the middle so Green got flushed and eventually murdered by a shot that would've had Gaethers suspended had he hit Manning. Of course he wasn't even flagged. Because - Chiefs. EDIT: Grunhard can also bite it because the rumors are that he steers kids away from Mizzou at Bishop Miege. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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