Fire Bob Sutton

[petegz28]

That is all.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Rudy won the toss

Because Sorensen has proven to be a sure tackler in space.

Carr isn't running that ball in.

[The Franchise]

There are any number of ****ing players on that team that should be in that position instead of Houston. It is ****ing stupid to put your $100 million dollar passrusher as a ****ing spy at the end of the game.

[DanT]

Originally Posted by RunKC

This isn't a Bob Sutton problem. It's a player problem.

It's not Sutton's fault that DJ is done and can't move like he used to (God it hurts saying that).
It's not Sutton's fault that Justin Houston can't get pressure on a backup RT.
It's not Sutton's fault that Parker, Mitchell and Sorenson all were right there by Crabtree, knew it was going to be a deep pass, and still couldn't defend it.
It's not Sutton's fault that Peters is a ****ing moron that headlocks guys downfield to give up a 40+ yard DPI for a first and goal.
It's not Sutton's fault that our DB's are in position but not capable of defending a deep pass.

This is a player problem.

I agree. Not only were our DBs positioned to make plays, we had multiple DBs positioned to make plays on the same passed ball. That tells me the scheme is good, but the players are not playing as well as NFL DBs need to play when given an opportunity. It also tells me that the Raiders receivers played well.

Countering my argument, one could argue that instead of having extra players in coverage, we should be blitzing more. That may be true, but I would need to see a detailed argument that takes into account the relative quality of our pass rushers and the Raiders pass protectors.

Coaches are supposed to put players in position to make plays, but it is up to the players to make them.

[oldman]

Nelson can't get back soon enough, Gaines flat out sucks. I don't care if Hali took a dump on Andy's desk, activate him. Dee Ford is just not getting the job done.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by oldman

Nelson can't get back soon enough, Gaines flat out sucks. I don't care if Hali took a dump on Andy's desk, activate him. Dee Ford is just not getting the job done.

PFF tweeted after the game that on Oakland's 61 pass plays, the Chiefs got pressures from:

Dee Ford - 7 plays
Justin Houston - 6 plays
Chris Jones - 5 plays
All others combined - 0 plays

[ChiefGator]

I am liking the Dorsey firing more and more. We are way to thin at DB and our CB's are really not that good. We have been sticking with some of this project players hoping they would suddenly get better, but they have shown over and over ( looking at you Gaines ) they can't. We need a #1/#2 type CB, to push Mitchell down onto the #3 or #4 WR. That is where he will shine.

[Gravedigger]

If these performances are any indicator of our Defensive prowess I have a tough time believing he'll keep his job at the end of the season. If Andy is that loyal, which we know he can be, then they better go OLB pass rush beast, ILB/Safety, and CB in the draft. Those are the four positions we need to shore up in the offseason without a doubt.

[RunKC]

One major thing I blame on Sutton is the disguise. He had a few good blitzes that worked effectively, but there was very little pressure put on Carr, which is really weird because everybody knows that Carr folds under pressure.

From what I saw last night, it was simple execution that failed. It's unreal that our DB's can't defend deep passes.

[DanT]

Originally Posted by RunKC

From what I saw last night, it was simple execution that failed. It's unreal that our DB's can't defend deep passes.

Exactly. I was upset with the DBs early in the game for not looking for the ball, but later they showed me that I shouldn't have been upset with them for that, because whether they are looking at the ball or not, at least one of the offensive players in the area is going to catch the ball anyway.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by RunKC

One major thing I blame on Sutton is the disguise. He had a few good blitzes that worked effectively, but there was very little pressure put on Carr, which is really weird because everybody knows that Carr folds under pressure.

From what I saw last night, it was simple execution that failed. It's unreal that our DB's can't defend deep passes.

Then that's also on Sutton for not doing anything about it.

Romo brought it up last night on that last drive but our defense was easy as **** to defeat.

Two deep safeties? Throw to the middle of the field.

Safety creeping up? Throw it deep.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by Cochise

PFF tweeted after the game that on Oakland's 61 pass plays, the Chiefs got pressures from:

Dee Ford - 7 plays
Justin Houston - 6 plays
Chris Jones - 5 plays
All others combined - 0 plays

It's not just about pressures, it's all-around performance. He doesn't defend the run and hits like a Volkswagen Beetle. Crap, they don't even have to hold him.

[Chris Meck]

Too many receivers running free all game long. The contested plays were bad, but that's what really killed the Chiefs.

I don't know why we don't zone blitz more, like Pittsburgh has always done. You still have to pressure the QB somehow. If you're going to drop Houston, blitz a safety.

When does Hali come back?

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Too many receivers running free all game long. The contested plays were bad, but that's what really killed the Chiefs.

I don't know why we don't zone blitz more, like Pittsburgh has always done. You still have to pressure the QB somehow. If you're going to drop Houston, blitz a safety.

When does Hali come back?

Hali is eligible to play next week if we want him to and I am pretty sure he could have played this game. I have no idea what is going on there.

[ILChief]

If the opposing team gets close to midfield, they should just chuck it to the end zone every play. Our db's have proven last night and vs Houston that they will either give up the TD or get flagged for PI most of the time

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by ILChief

If the opposing team gets close to midfield, they should just chuck it to the end zone every play. Our db's have proven last night and vs Houston that they will either give up the TD or get flagged for PI most of the time

This was discussed during the game by Mitch and Kendall. They were amazed at how many times Carr just basically threw it up for grabs.