What is your stance on aliens?

[mr. tegu]

I am curious to see where everyone stands on this. Asking about a stance on UFOs could be a different topic with different options so feel to give your thoughts on that as well.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

Well since we all know witches don't exist here ...she must be an alien ... or is it he...that would have been a wizard right?

I have done my due diligence I looked for months for any explanation I could come up with to give it an earthly explanation....nothing....does that mean that every "unexplained" phenomena is alien? No. But I guarandamntee you that what I have seen and capture was not of this world

Captured like on video or stills? Please do share would love to see.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

I think you are trying to be funny - but I'm not sure what you are getting at there -

That open police investigations aren't proof of the existence of aliens. That there already exists proof of what causes "Cattle mutilations", and it has nothing to do with aliens from other galaxies stealing cow parts.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Fish

That open police investigations aren't proof of the existence of aliens. That there already exists proof of what causes "Cattle mutilations", and it has nothing to do with aliens from other galaxies stealing cow parts.

I never said they were- you said cattle mutilations were "debunked". All I'm saying is that if they were debunked then why bother opening an investigation? We know the cause is insects so go back to your ranch and file an insurance claim. Obviously it's more than insects....

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by srvy

Captured like on video or stills? Please do share would love to see.

Video - on an old Mini DV cassette - I'll have to dig around for it and figure out how to covert it to digital

[Fish]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

I never said they were- you said cattle mutilations were "debunked". All I'm saying is that if they were debunked then why bother opening an investigation? We know the cause is insects so go back to your ranch and file an insurance claim. Obviously it's more than insects....

They have been debunked. Why bother opening an investigation? I don't know. People are crazy. But life isn't the X-Files and open police investigations can't be used as proof of alien anything.

Go ahead and tell the insurance company that aliens are killing your cattle instead. See how much effort they put into not laughing at you....

[SeeingRed]

They exist but mostly likely only in a 4th and 5th dimentional plane of our consciousness. Ask anyone who has ever had a strong Ayahuasca or DMT experience if aliens exist. The answer you get won't be what anyone who hasn't had those experiences would say. (And I'm not talking about some drugged out misfit types but rather highly functioning normal people who have had these experience....in particularly with Shamans in South America).

We all know much less than we think we do. So convinced that life as we see it is the ultimate reality...when many interesting and highly educated people will tell you its not. Mind you I have never had these experiences (yet) and certainly have never seen an alien but in talking with many people I have encountered and respect on this subject I believe there is much more to life then what we see with our 5 senses in our busy and stressed out lives.

Oh, and lastly...alien life forms have at one time physically lived on earth and helped shape our history. There are things that can't logically be explained otherwise. An interesting thought is IF Aliens did teach us about astronomy, mathematics, build pyramids, supply us with knowledge to grow, build and develop more as a species etc....would they be proud of us now?

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Fish

They have been debunked. Why bother opening an investigation? I don't know. People are crazy. But life isn't the X-Files and open police investigations can't be used as proof of alien anything.

Go ahead and tell the insurance company that aliens are killing your cattle instead. See how much effort they put into not laughing at you....

you have no idea how police investigations work -

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by SeeingRed

We all know much less than we think we do. So convinced that life as we see it is the ultimate reality...when many interesting and highly educated people will tell you its not. Mind you I have never had these experiences (yet) and certainly have never seen an alien but in talking with many people I have encountered and respect on this subject I believe there is much more to life then what we see with our 5 senses in our busy and stressed out lives.

How can you be certain?

[ThaVirus]

I think the idea that an alien presence shaping human history is a fascinating one, but I'm skeptical. I think it's more likely that we just underestimate our ancestors.

I mean, for all intents and purposes humans 5,000 years ago were just as intelligent as we are today (correct me if I'm wrong), though far less educated and with less technology obviously.

[SeeingRed]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

How can you be certain?

First hand experience I would say. I know many people who have had experiences in South America with Ayahuasca and DMT with Shamans (a practice that has been done for thousands of years by the way by the indigenous people of the amazon in Brazil and Peru) and it changed their lives.

Very similar to stories of people who have had near death experiences. The first hand knowledge and experience gave them a peace about their life they didn't have before it. Often aliens appear with life messages for people during their experiences that help improve their lives in some meaningful way afterwards. Most will write it off as crazy but I have talked to and know enough people who have done it to believe it.

I intend on doing some ceremonies in the future but wanted to research it extensively first. Its some interesting shit, if you haven't done so you should check it out with an open mind. The way I look at it, it doesn't hurt to research it. Many people have seen aliens during their "enhanced" dream (which is really what an Ayahuasca experience is) and communicate with them telepathically....not through spoken language....in fact everyone who has had the experience I have come across says the exact same thing. Its "trippy" (no pun intended) for sure. But if nothing else interesting as hell.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by SeeingRed

First hand experience I would say. I know many people who have had experiences in South America with Ayahuasca and DMT with Shamans (a practice that has been done for thousands of years by the way by the indigenous people of the amazon in Brazil and Peru) and it changed their lives.

Very similar to stories of people who have had near death experiences. The first hand knowledge and experience gave them a peace about their life they didn't have before it. Often aliens appear with life messages for people during their experiences that help improve their lives in some meaningful way afterwards. Most will write it off as crazy but I have talked to and know enough people who have done it to believe it.

I intend on doing some ceremonies in the future but wanted to research it extensively first. Its some interesting shit, if you haven't done so you should check it out with an open mind. The way I look at it, it doesn't hurt to research it. Many people have seen aliens during their "enhanced" dream (which is really what an Ayahuasca experience is) and communicate with them telepathically....not through spoken language....in fact everyone who has had the experience I have come across says the exact same thing. Its "trippy" (no pun intended) for sure. But if nothing else interesting as hell.

I have always wanted to get in on some Native American ceremonies - there is some amazing stuff that people who are in tune with th earth can teach us technology people

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by SeeingRed

First hand experience I would say. I know many people who have had experiences in South America with Ayahuasca and DMT with Shamans (a practice that has been done for thousands of years by the way by the indigenous people of the amazon in Brazil and Peru) and it changed their lives.



Very similar to stories of people who have had near death experiences. The first hand knowledge and experience gave them a peace about their life they didn't have before it. Often aliens appear with life messages for people during their experiences that help improve their lives in some meaningful way afterwards. Most will write it off as crazy but I have talked to and know enough people who have done it to believe it.



I intend on doing some ceremonies in the future but wanted to research it extensively first. Its some interesting shit, if you haven't done so you should check it out with an open mind. The way I look at it, it doesn't hurt to research it. Many people have seen aliens during their "enhanced" dream (which is really what an Ayahuasca experience is) and communicate with them telepathically....not through spoken language....in fact everyone who has had the experience I have come across says the exact same thing. Its "trippy" (no pun intended) for sure. But if nothing else interesting as hell.

You said you "certainly have never seen an alien". I asked how you can be certain.

[ThaVirus]

That all sounds cool and all but you also can't be certain of anything that you experience during a hallucinogenic episode...

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

That all sounds cool and all but you also can't be certain of anything that you experience during a hallucinogenic episode...

Did you take the red pill or the blue one?

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

Did you take the red pill or the blue one?

The logical one.

You like to think yourself open minded but in reality you're just as close minded as someone who is certain you didn't see anything alien.