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Old 09-30-2020, 11:01 AM  
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Which QB is better: Dak Prescott or Lamar Jackson?

Was just talking about this with coworkers.

Most agreed Dak overall was better. Both will be looking to get paid soon.

Who’s the better QB?
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Old 09-30-2020, 06:35 PM   #121
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Not to mention, Dak is in a weak division.
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Old 09-30-2020, 06:37 PM   #122
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But if he could get to Dak's cerebral level, say, with his other physical attributes he'd be pretty damned dangerous.
Lamar Jackson scored a 13 on the Wonderlic exam.

While that's certainly not the End-All-Be-All in determining NFL success, that's a pretty low score for a QB that's expected to learn and process a "normal" NFL offense and read and react to NFL defenses.

Dak scored a 25.
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Old 09-30-2020, 06:39 PM   #123
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Not to mention, Dak is in a weak division.
The AFC North isn't exactly a powerhouse division.
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Old 09-30-2020, 06:44 PM   #124
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Of course he does, he's has more seasons under his belt, and is 27 yrs old now. I'll tell you what he doesn't have though, an MVP.
Dak has been in the NFL two years longer than Lamar... don’t act like it is a 10 year difference to mask the fact Lamar has choked in his two playoff games and hasn’t led a fourth quarter comeback in nearly two years as a starting QB (Dak has nine 4th quarter comebacks).
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Old 09-30-2020, 06:44 PM   #125
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The AFC North isn't exactly a powerhouse division.
Very true, but at this point in time they're trending upward and the NFC east is going downwards... The Chiefs normally destroy NFC east.
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Old 09-30-2020, 06:46 PM   #126
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Let's do the team flip for Dak and Jackson. Lamar is now a Cowboy with that line and weapons, and Dak is a Crow with their line and weapons. Who has more success as a QB?
Today, it'd have to be Dak. He's got more time in both at the position and in the NFL. And he wouldn't be limited to Roman's offense. He could step in and in a couple weeks have decent command of the offense.

Lamar would either have to learn to run a typical pro offense in DAL or they'd have to reorganize their offense to suit Lamar. But since we're blue-skying here, let's just assume he'd have to learn to run the DAL offense as is. This year I don't think that would go that well.

But DAL isn't really ideal for a QB like Lamar. What if he went to, maybe the 49ers? Could he operate that offense in place of Jimmy? I think he probably could. Oh, there's things that Jimmy is better at, but he's not a great QB either. They aren't asking him to carry the team either.
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Old 09-30-2020, 06:48 PM   #127
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Lamar Jackson scored a 13 on the Wonderlic exam.

While that's certainly not the End-All-Be-All in determining NFL success, that's a pretty low score for a QB that's expected to learn and process a "normal" NFL offense and read and react to NFL defenses.

Dak scored a 25.
Well, we aren't asking Lamar to solve algebra problems. I'm only suggesting that it might be possible for Lamar to learn to go through his pre-snap routine, make adjustments, etc. on about the same level as any upper mid-tier QB in the NFL.
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Old 09-30-2020, 06:49 PM   #128
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Dak has been in the NFL two years longer than Lamar... don’t act like it is a 10 year difference to mask the fact Lamar has choked in his two playoff games and hasn’t led a fourth quarter comeback in nearly two years as a starting QB (Dak has nine 4th quarter comebacks).
If I insinuated that Lamar was only 17 yrs old, I apologise... however, there is a four year difference in age. Like I said, Dak plays in a weak divison, and still manages an 8-8 record.
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Old 09-30-2020, 06:50 PM   #129
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Lamar Jackson scored a 13 on the Wonderlic exam.

While that's certainly not the End-All-Be-All in determining NFL success, that's a pretty low score for a QB that's expected to learn and process a "normal" NFL offense and read and react to NFL defenses.

Dak scored a 25.
It's been talked about before. The Wonderlic is a pretty general test, used across a wide range of professions. A high score doesn't necessarily mean a guy will be a better football player.

But a really low score is generally an indicator that a person won't be able to do anything well if it requires problem solving, especially quickly.
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Old 09-30-2020, 06:51 PM   #130
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Well, we aren't asking Lamar to solve algebra problems. I'm only suggesting that it might be possible for Lamar to learn to go through his pre-snap routine, make adjustments, etc. on about the same level as any upper mid-tier QB in the NFL.
The Wonderlic tests problem solving vs. TIME.

It doesn't just test if you can get the right answer. It also tests how fast you can get the right answer.

People really don't learn how to think faster, even if they can learn by volume.
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Old 09-30-2020, 06:59 PM   #131
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The Wonderlic tests problem solving vs. TIME.

It doesn't just test if you can get the right answer. It also tests how fast you can get the right answer.

People really don't learn how to think faster, even if they can learn by volume.
Okay, thanks for reminding me about the time part.

But a low score on the Wonderlic test doesn't necessarily mean that a person can't learn to do a basic pre-snap read does it? I mean, Marino managed and his score wasn't that great either.
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Old 09-30-2020, 07:03 PM   #132
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Give me an average QB like Dak, who can provide just enough traction in the passing game to pull off wins if you put a great defense and solid running game around him, rather than an over-glorified RB like Lamar... every single day of the week.
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If I insinuated that Lamar was only 17 yrs old, I apologise... however, there is a four year difference in age. Like I said, Dak plays in a weak divison, and still manages an 8-8 record.
Dak doesn’t get to play the Browns/Bungholes twice a year like Lamar does.

Although Lamar was curb stomped by Fat Freddie Kitchens’ Browns last year so maybe that isn’t a legit advantage.
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Old 09-30-2020, 07:25 PM   #134
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Dak doesn’t get to play the Browns/Bungholes twice a year like Lamar does.

Although Lamar was curb stomped by Fat Freddie Kitchens’ Browns last year so maybe that isn’t a legit advantage.
And in Daks second year he didn't exactly throw for 36 tds and 6 ints with a 113 passer rating for 3.127 yds either, more like 22 tds 13 ints with an 86 passer rating for 3,324 yds.
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Lamar overall he is harder to stop than Dak is. I don't get all the Lamar hate on this board dude can play.
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