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Old 09-24-2019, 03:30 PM  
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Pelosi to open impeachment inquiry



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Old 10-18-2019, 01:57 PM   #4666
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JFC.

Hillary isn't responsible for the Steele dossier because there is no proof she knew about it. /Donger

Trump definitely asked for a quid pro quo in the call even if the words aren't there. /Donger
Both are correct, yes.
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Old 10-18-2019, 01:58 PM   #4667
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Shocking. What do David French and Steve Schmidt think?
Do you know what the no true scotsman fallacy is?
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:04 PM   #4668
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Both are correct, yes.
Do you approve of the way Schiff is conducting the 'inquiry'?
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:04 PM   #4669
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He didn't have to for there to be a quid pro quo. The other party doesn't have to be made aware of it explicitly for it to exist.
The other party has to be aware of it.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:05 PM   #4670
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Do you approve of the way Schiff is conducting the 'inquiry'?
The more important question is: does Schiff support the wars in the Middle East?
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:06 PM   #4671
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Do you know what the no true scotsman fallacy is?
Do you know what the least surprising thing I've heard today is?
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:07 PM   #4672
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The other party has to be aware of it.
No they don't. And, as you are aware, Trump made it very clear how much we have done for Ukraine before asking for his favors. That, too, is a quid pro quo.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:08 PM   #4673
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Do you approve of the way Schiff is conducting the 'inquiry'?
Yes. Is there some reason I should not be?
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No they don't. And, as you are aware, Trump made it very clear how much we have done for Ukraine before asking for his favors. That, too, is a quid pro quo.
No, that’s not right.
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No, that’s not right.
What's not right?
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What's not right?
Your understanding of this subject.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:15 PM   #4677
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Your understanding of this subject.
I understand it fine. For example:

Trump made it very clear how much we have done for Ukraine and that it hasn't been reciprocal before asking for his favors.

That's isn't disputable.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:21 PM   #4678
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I understand it fine. For example:

Trump made it very clear how much we have done for Ukraine and that it hasn't been reciprocal before asking for his favors.

That's isn't disputable.
Neither is your TDS or your lack of understanding of this quid pro quo issue.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:22 PM   #4679
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Neither is your TDS or your lack of understanding of this quid pro quo issue.
Speaking of TDS, surely you aren't disputing that, right? Here, I'll post the facts again:

Trump made it very clear how much we have done for Ukraine and that it hasn't been reciprocal before asking for his favors.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:23 PM   #4680
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Do you know what the least surprising thing I've heard today is?
I'll take that as a no.

No true Scotsman, or appeal to purity, is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect a universal generalization from counterexamples by changing the definition in an ad hoc fashion to exclude the counterexample.

For example, you've tried to argue that because the impeachment inquiry does not have support from republicans it's illegitimate, or without merit. But then when a republican comes out for impeachment (not just the inquiry, but impeachment!), you try to say they aren't a true republican, or that it doesn't matter because of reasons.

The republican who came in 3rd to trump in 2016 calling for his impeachment is pretty big news.
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