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duncan_idaho · 07:19 AM

I thought it might be good/fun to have a "pro" mock repository for draft nerd season.

So, I think Dane Brugler is pretty outstanding at the mock draft game. Probably the best guy available. If you have The Athletic, it's always worth reading.

Post good/interesting/funny ones you run across. I can update the OP with links and such as they come.

Dane Brugler | 1.13.21 The Athletic

Chiefs take Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida (1.32) and Dayo Odeyinbingo, DE, Vanderbilt (2.64).

Brentley Wiseman | 1.15.21 Draft Network
Chiefs take Wyatt Davis, OG, The Second State University of Ohio (1.32), Elijah Moore, WR, Ole Miss (2.64), and Walker Little, OT, Stanford(3.95).

Duncan’s Most Recent

Terrance Marshall Jr, WR, LSU (2.39), Teven Walker, OL, Oklahoma State (2.64), Dabo Odeyingbo, DE, Vanderbilt (3.73), Jabril Cox, LB, LSU (3.95), Jeremy Ruckert, TE, The Second State University of Ohio (4.128)Shaun Jolly, CB, Appy State (5.160), Josh Bell, OT, Marshall (7.222)

I’ll keep updating this as the draft nears. Love this current group but think all of these guys rise as the draft approaches.

O.city · 01-13-2021, 10:24 AM

It would be hard for me to take a WR with Wyatt Davis sitting there. Man the more I read about him, I think he's gonna be a really good player.

OKchiefs · 01-13-2021, 10:35 AM

I used to get so caught up in wanting this position or that position, but now I just want the BPA in the 1st and 2nd if possible. Veach has found IMO a lot of good role players, but through his 3 drafts so far I'm still not seeing many "star" type players. Obviously that's a little difficult with not having a 1st round pick until 2020 and picking so late in the round, but I think this would be a good time to start adding some real impact players regardless of the position.

There are likely a few positions you can count out for rd 1 like QB and RB, but beyond that I want to see us take a top talent that slipped who can hopefully hit the ground running and not take 2-3 years to develop like we've seen with several of our recent higher picks.

TambaBerry · 01-13-2021, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

I used to get so caught up in wanting this position or that position, but now I just want the BPA in the 1st and 2nd if possible. Veach has found IMO a lot of good role players, but through his 3 drafts so far I'm still not seeing many "star" type players. Obviously that's a little difficult with not having a 1st round pick until 2020 and picking so late in the round, but I think this would be a good time to start adding some real impact players regardless of the position.

There are likely a few positions you can count out for rd 1 like QB and RB, but beyond that I want to see us take a top talent that slipped who can hopefully hit the ground running and not take 2-3 years to develop like we've seen with several of our recent higher picks.

That's because up until recently we have made awful picks

duncan_idaho · 01-13-2021, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

It would be hard for me to take a WR with Wyatt Davis sitting there. Man the more I read about him, I think he's gonna be a really good player.

Believe he blew out a knee in the title game. Could affect his stock a bit.

The only knock I've seen on him is that he has never played C and is probably a G-only player. I like him a lot but can't see them using a 1st on a G... could see it on an OL, but I'd expect it to be someone who can play T. Teven Jenkins at Oklahoma State is interesting as a guy who has played LT, RT, and G.

Dante84 · 01-13-2021, 12:30 PM

There used to be a site that compiled all the major mock draft results into a big spreadsheet. I forget what that was, or if anyone is doing something similar.

staylor26 · 01-13-2021, 12:36 PM

Toney and Odeyinbingo would be an excellent pair for our first 2 picks. Sign me up for that.

Haven’t seen anybody on CP talk about Odeyinbingo, but he’s a nice sleeper type of pick that I’m sure the NFL is higher on than the pundits.

staylor26 · 01-13-2021, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

I used to get so caught up in wanting this position or that position, but now I just want the BPA in the 1st and 2nd if possible. Veach has found IMO a lot of good role players, but through his 3 drafts so far I'm still not seeing many "star" type players. Obviously that's a little difficult with not having a 1st round pick until 2020 and picking so late in the round, but I think this would be a good time to start adding some real impact players regardless of the position.

There are likely a few positions you can count out for rd 1 like QB and RB, but beyond that I want to see us take a top talent that slipped who can hopefully hit the ground running and not take 2-3 years to develop like we've seen with several of our recent higher picks.

Some draft picks will “hit the ground running” like CEH, Thornhill, Sneed, Nnadi etc.

Some can be productive in a minor role while they develop like Hardman, Gay, Saunders etc.

Either way, you don’t draft for day 1 year 1. It’s a terrible philosophy with unrealistic expectations. I’ve tried to explain this over and over and you still don’t get it.

I also don’t agree that none of the guys Veach drafted have star potential.

CEH, Thornhill, Sneed, and Gay all have star potential. They’re just still young. Again, your expectations are just unrealistic. There’s a pattern here.

staylor26 · 01-13-2021, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Believe he blew out a knee in the title game. Could affect his stock a bit.

The only knock I've seen on him is that he has never played C and is probably a G-only player. I like him a lot but can't see them using a 1st on a G... could see it on an OL, but I'd expect it to be someone who can play T. Teven Jenkins at Oklahoma State is interesting as a guy who has played LT, RT, and G.

Sounds like he didn’t blow his knee out, but just re-injured his knee.

I love Davis, but he wasn’t great in the playoffs, so between that and the injury his stock will likely drop a little.

htismaqe · 01-13-2021, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

It would be hard for me to take a WR with Wyatt Davis sitting there. Man the more I read about him, I think he's gonna be a really good player.

Yuck. Davis is probably best-suited at guard and would end up being 2nd-string behind Wylie and LDT while Toney could easily become the starter opposite Hill.

No way I'm taking a guard over a WR in the 1st round.

htismaqe · 01-13-2021, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

CEH, Thornhill, Sneed, and Gay all have star potential. They’re just still young. Again, your expectations are just unrealistic. There’s a pattern here.

I said this in another thread the other day. Not every star player is a star right off the bat. Neither Kelce nor Hill were. These guys need 2-3 years to develop.

O.city · 01-13-2021, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yuck. Davis is probably best-suited at guard and would end up being 2nd-string behind Wylie and LDT while Toney could easily become the starter opposite Hill.

No way I'm taking a guard over a WR in the 1st round.

That wr would be the 4th of 5th option too though. Unless he jumps a few guys.

I’d have no problem replacing a g with a pick at 32.

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-13-2021, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

It would be hard for me to take a WR with Wyatt Davis sitting there. Man the more I read about him, I think he's gonna be a really good player.

Wyatt blew out a knee

htismaqe · 01-14-2021, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

That wr would be the 4th of 5th option too though. Unless he jumps a few guys.

I’d have no problem replacing a g with a pick at 32.

Watkins and Robinson are gone. Toney would be the instant #2 WR outside with Hardman inside and Hill on the other side.

And you're not replacing a guard. You assume that Toney can't win a starting job and then turn around and assume Davis can. Kind of a double standard, no?

O.city · 01-14-2021, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Watkins and Robinson are gone. Toney would be the instant #2 WR outside with Hardman inside and Hill on the other side.

And you're not replacing a guard. You assume that Toney can't win a starting job and then turn around and assume Davis can. Kind of a double standard, no?

I don't think Davis would have to beat out anyone, I think he'd straight up be plugged in there. I think they'll overmake the interior OL.

I woudln't be opposed to Toney or any WR I'm just not keen on it being a first rounder after we just burned a 2nd on Hardman.

01-13-2021, 10:10 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1790308	** "Expert" Mocks ** I thought it might be good/fun to have a "pro" mock repository for draft nerd season. So, I think Dane Brugler is pretty outstanding at the mock draft game. Probably the best guy available. If you have The Athletic, it's always worth reading. Post good/interesting/funny ones you run across. I can update the OP with links and such as they come. Dane Brugler \| 1.13.21 The Athletic Chiefs take Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida (1.32) and Dayo Odeyinbingo, DE, Vanderbilt (2.64). Brentley Wiseman \| 1.15.21 Draft Network Chiefs take Wyatt Davis, OG, The Second State University of Ohio (1.32), Elijah Moore, WR, Ole Miss (2.64), and Walker Little, OT, Stanford(3.95). Duncan’s Most Recent Terrance Marshall Jr, WR, LSU (2.39), Teven Walker, OL, Oklahoma State (2.64), Dabo Odeyingbo, DE, Vanderbilt (3.73), Jabril Cox, LB, LSU (3.95), Jeremy Ruckert, TE, The Second State University of Ohio (4.128)Shaun Jolly, CB, Appy State (5.160), Josh Bell, OT, Marshall (7.222) I’ll keep updating this as the draft nears. Love this current group but think all of these guys rise as the draft approaches. Last edited by duncan_idaho; 01-15-2021 at 07:19 AM..
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