Potential free agent signings

[O.city]

I think we can narrow our potential free agent signings this off-season to guys coming off rookie deals in the 24,25,26 year old range, based on the past few years

That’s the sweet spot

So who’s in that area?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Aside from the year Fisher played RT & Niang for a few games have we done that during Reids tenure?

Had Schwartz fall in their lap in 16-20.

Would prefer go big and sign the RT from Jacksonville if we're looking for a RT.

I don't think they'll pay one, since I'm guessing they pay OBJ then Humphrey and or Smith in the next year or two.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Slayton is explosive but he also drops alot of balls. Given the market for what WRs make I'd rather draft one

Fair assessment.

I don't know if he's going to be all that expensive. I think he'll come cheaper than JuJu will at this point, which is why I favor signing him more than JuJu. That said, JuJu is more reliable in securing the football.

I do think the sporadic usage of Slayton up to the past 8 weeks hasn't helped him but a long date with the Jugs machine would certainly be in order.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I think all those guys are gonna get overpaid big time

Everyone gets drastically overpaid these days.

Hargrave is the most disruptive NT in the NFL, hands down. There's zero doubt he's going to cost a hefty contract. I'm expecting at least 17 per. You can call it overpaid, but there aren't many DTs in the NFL as good as he is. If Andy Reid was serious about interior pressure, a pairing of him and Jones is as good as you can get.

Davenport is going to get paid beyond his results, absolutely. Astronomical money? I doubt that. He hasn't reached any sort of level of consistency to deserve a contract that I'd consider gross overpayment. He's actually alot like Romeo Okwara was when he got paid, but with one less year in the league. So, I could absolutely see a similar 3/37 type of contract. I can live with that so long as you structure so you can get out of it early if he doesn't ascend. One thing for certain, Davenport is easily the biggest boom-or-bust guy you could take a shot on. The rest of the FA options are very meh.

Slayton, well he's going to get a contract. He's not total shit. He's at least a bit better than Russell Gage and he got 3/30. I'd probably put my expectations more on par with Robbie Anderson who was 2/29.5. Let's say you get him for 3/45, I think that's the high end. JuJu, I think he's going to be more in that 3/60 range.

At the end of the day, I think KC has to pick their poison when it comes to FA vs Draft. I think they have to nail down a couple of areas in FA and leave one or two open. The FA tackle class is shaping up to be a couple of guys and a lot of shit. It'll be overpaying for average or going to the draft. I think the same about DE. I think FA DT and WR have some nice players worth investing in.

Nail down DT and WR in FA is my opinion. It doesn't have to be the guys I like but I'm giving my fan opinion on guys that I think would be the biggest impact. I'm open to taking a shot on a guy like Davenport at DE. If not him, let the bargains flesh themselves out and grab one of the meh guys that offer little upside but at least some rotational quality like an Omenihu or whoever. That said, you sometimes gotta lay some chips down.

You're not going to solve everything in the Draft. You're settling on big contracts somewhere in FA. I'd rather pay Hargrave and Davenport 30 million than pay OBj 30 million.

[O.city]

Davenport at 3/40 would be fantastic from a potential upside scenario.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by O.city

Davenport at 3/40 would be fantastic from a potential upside scenario.

Very similar to the deal Hendrickson signed when HE left New Orleans. That has worked out well...

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Fair assessment.

I don't know if he's going to be all that expensive. I think he'll come cheaper than JuJu will at this point, which is why I favor signing him more than JuJu. That said, JuJu is more reliable in securing the football.

I do think the sporadic usage of Slayton up to the past 8 weeks hasn't helped him but a long date with the Jugs machine would certainly be in order.

Yeah if my choice is JuJu around 20 per or Slayton at a lower rate I'm going with Slayton. I don't feel comfortable giving JuJu alot of money I have some questions about his durability with the way he plays.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Everyone gets drastically overpaid these days.

Hargrave is the most disruptive NT in the NFL, hands down. There's zero doubt he's going to cost a hefty contract. I'm expecting at least 17 per. You can call it overpaid, but there aren't many DTs in the NFL as good as he is. If Andy Reid was serious about interior pressure, a pairing of him and Jones is as good as you can get.

Davenport is going to get paid beyond his results, absolutely. Astronomical money? I doubt that. He hasn't reached any sort of level of consistency to deserve a contract that I'd consider gross overpayment. He's actually alot like Romeo Okwara was when he got paid, but with one less year in the league. So, I could absolutely see a similar 3/37 type of contract. I can live with that so long as you structure so you can get out of it early if he doesn't ascend. One thing for certain, Davenport is easily the biggest boom-or-bust guy you could take a shot on. The rest of the FA options are very meh.

Slayton, well he's going to get a contract. He's not total shit. He's at least a bit better than Russell Gage and he got 3/30. I'd probably put my expectations more on par with Robbie Anderson who was 2/29.5. Let's say you get him for 3/45, I think that's the high end. JuJu, I think he's going to be more in that 3/60 range.

At the end of the day, I think KC has to pick their poison when it comes to FA vs Draft. I think they have to nail down a couple of areas in FA and leave one or two open. The FA tackle class is shaping up to be a couple of guys and a lot of shit. It'll be overpaying for average or going to the draft. I think the same about DE. I think FA DT and WR have some nice players worth investing in.

Nail down DT and WR in FA is my opinion. It doesn't have to be the guys I like but I'm giving my fan opinion on guys that I think would be the biggest impact. I'm open to taking a shot on a guy like Davenport at DE. If not him, let the bargains flesh themselves out and grab one of the meh guys that offer little upside but at least some rotational quality like an Omenihu or whoever. That said, you sometimes gotta lay some chips down.

You're not going to solve everything in the Draft. You're settling on big contracts somewhere in FA. I'd rather pay Hargrave and Davenport 30 million than pay OBj 30 million.

Isn't hargrave likely to end up tagged though?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Isn't hargrave likely to end up tagged though?

I don't believe he can be. This is a void year in his contract. Maybe? I'd have to check the CBA.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Very similar to the deal Hendrickson signed when HE left New Orleans. That has worked out well...

Shit, yeah, that's ideal.

You'd probably still need a "speed" guy but those guys are usually available in the 2nd/3rd round?

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by O.city

Shit, yeah, that's ideal.

You'd probably still need a "speed" guy but those guys are usually available in the 2nd/3rd round?

Depends who your DC is next season.

There's a non-zero chance Spags walks -- I think his contract ends this offseason.

If he stays, he may just prefer another long, powerful strong guy.

[kccrow]

So from what I have gathered, as long as a player's void years trigger BEFORE the franchise tag period OPENS then the team has the opportunity to apply the tag. If not, then the player cannot be tagged and becomes an UFA by default.

[kccrow]

In the case of Javon Hargrave, his void triggers on Feb 13 and the tag period opens Feb 21 so he could be tagged if the Eagles choose to do so.

If you want to see the Contract Triggers Calendar, it's at OTC here: https://overthecap.com/contract-triggers-calendar

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Isn't hargrave likely to end up tagged though?

Considering where they are against the cap and the resources they have invested in the DL (including Jordan Davis waiting in the wings at NT), I don't think they tag Hargrave.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Depends who your DC is next season.

There's a non-zero chance Spags walks -- I think his contract ends this offseason.

If he stays, he may just prefer another long, powerful strong guy.

Why wouldn't he be back?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Considering where they are against the cap and the resources they have invested in the DL (including Jordan Davis waiting in the wings at NT), I don't think they tag Hargrave.

I agree. They have two really good DTs waiting in the wings, including Davis who was the 13th overall pick. They are going to save money and let Cox and Hargrave walk IMO.