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Old 11-12-2019, 03:29 PM  
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Cap Space for 2020

Here are some cap figures for next year.

Current cap space to be rolled over to 2020 - $21 million
Current cap space projected for 2020 - $1.6 million

People who should be cut after this season. Their replacement in quotes.

Sammy Watkins (Pringle/Hardman) - $14 million cap savings
LDT (Wylie/Rankin) - $5 million cap savings
Daniel Sorenson (literally anybody or Watts) - $3.75 million cap savings
Cameron Erving (literally anybody) - $3.25 million cap savings
Damien Williams (Thompson) - $2.3 million cap savings
Dustin Colquitt (It's a punter...come on) - $1.35 million cap savings

That's 6 cuts that we should have no problem finding a replacement for.

Projected cap space for 2020 after cuts - $31 million

We could add more by making Anthony Hitchens a June 1st cut. That would put his dead cap space in 2020 at
$4.2 million and his cap savings at $8.5 million. It would only save us roughly $2 million in 2021 and then
$11 million in 2022. I think he's overpaid but a decent #2 LB.

So, if we roll over the cap space from this year, and with the 6 cuts, we should be at $52 million in
cap space.

We're obviously going to need that cap space for Mahomes but we will only have 2 CBs under contract
(Ward and Fenton). We also will have 4 DEs under contract (Clark, Okafor, KPass and Speaks). I think
some of that cap space should be to bring Ogbah back if it isn't a huge amount of money.
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:34 AM   #16
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Trade Sammy for a 3rd. Use said 3rd on a WR

If the draft class looks amazing why would anyone give a 3 for Sammy, and not use their own 3 to get a WR?
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:46 AM   #17
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If the draft class looks amazing why would anyone give a 3 for Sammy, and not use their own 3 to get a WR?
Look at how many dumb GMs there are in the league. All it takes is one to think that Watkins is that WR1 that theyre looking for and his injury history is a fluke.

I dont think well get a 3rd for him. Id say wed be lucky to get a 4th and Im cutting him if we cant get anything at all.
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Old 11-15-2019, 02:14 AM   #18
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Wisniewski is another viable on the Interior line. The kid is a technician and can block in space
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:25 AM   #19
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Wisniewski is another viable on the Interior line. The kid is a technician and can block in space
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30 years old with 100 career starts.

Don't get me wrong - I'd like to see him brought back on the right deal. But my memory is that he's had some durability/consistency issues in the past and that's why he was still out there as a street FA.

I think I remember a fair amount of conversation here when the Raiders signed him and many were high on him as a replacement for Hudson, IIRC. He's got some ability. But I think I really like him in this sort of "your job if you can take it from someone" role more than relying on him as a starter.
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:28 AM   #20
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Look at how many dumb GMs there are in the league. All it takes is one to think that Watkins is that WR1 that theyre looking for and his injury history is a fluke.

I dont think well get a 3rd for him. Id say wed be lucky to get a 4th and Im cutting him if we cant get anything at all.
Well the problem is that at least ONE of the GM's dumb enough to think he is a viable WR1 is off the table to make a deal with...

I mean apart from the guy that just keeps paying people for what he really hopes they'll become and not what history says they are, how many GMs out there have demonstrated a willingness to get burned by cock-teases like Sammy Watkins?

Unless Veach can find a way to clone himself and put the clone in charge of another team, we're gonna struggle to find a GM with the right combination of desperate and stupid to give us any real value for this spacey ****stick at this point.
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:33 AM   #21
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They can move Sammy for a pick. A lot of these teams about to draft a dumb young QB will want a vet like Sammy.
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:34 AM   #22
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"kid"

30 years old with 100 career starts.

Don't get me wrong - I'd like to see him brought back on the right deal. But my memory is that he's had some durability/consistency issues in the past and that's why he was still out there as a street FA.

I think I remember a fair amount of conversation here when the Raiders signed him and many were high on him as a replacement for Hudson, IIRC. He's got some ability. But I think I really like him in this sort of "your job if you can take it from someone" role more than relying on him as a starter.
I've said KC needs to get the best OL possible through all resources they can utilize.

I'm to the point that I'd be OK with an OG in the 1st round.
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I've said KC needs to get the best OL possible through all resources they can utilize.

I'm to the point that I'd be OK with an OG in the 1st round.
No way in hell. It's gonna have to be CB or bust.
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No way in hell. It's gonna have to be CB or bust.
Protect the PMII investment at all costs, OL and RB should be the main priority this offseason.
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Protect the PMII investment at all costs, OL and RB should be the main priority this offseason.
Not sure it's a great interior line draft, to be honest. But that stuff kinda sorts itself out as the season progresses.

Feels a little like last year again; short on standout prospects but a shitload of pretty good ones, especially at WR and RB. T seems pretty decent as well so if a good one slides, I'd be fine grabbing one and using some G work as OTJ training to get him ready to replace Schwartz or Fisher going forward (and as a true swing-tackle to get the !@#$ rid of Erving).
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Would have to agree. Upgrading from Cam Erving is a priority, but hell that isn't hard to do.

I really liked what I saw from Rankin at LG and I would give him a real shot at the job if he can be 100% by Week 1 2020. I think they are ok at the tackle spots for right now and I wouldn't mind an upgrade at Center. Shortage of picks so far though. Most of Pats problems has been with a useless sack of ass at LT since Week 2.
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After watching Jones literally wreck plays on his own for a couple of weeks, I keep thinking it wouldn't be the end of the world if Pat didn't want to sign an extension until the new CBA and that left enough cash to re-sign Jones now.

Hopefully that leaves enough cash to bring back Ogbah, get a cheap veteran CB on a Claiborne type deal and then look to draft CB, LB, OL in pretty much whatever falls to our picks BPA situation.
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Old 11-16-2019, 10:00 AM   #28
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A stud 3-down LB is as big of a need as any imo.

That and CB will be key points next offseason.
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Old 11-16-2019, 10:24 AM   #29
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A stud 3-down LB is as big of a need as any imo.

That and CB will be key points next offseason.
I'm not saying it has to be round one, but we need to go OL early and often.
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I'm not saying it has to be round one, but we need to go OL early and often.
Thats a position where I take it if its BPA for sure R1, but Im really looking for a LB or CB
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