Through six games, the Chiefs are the worst defense ever measured in yards allowed

[Shag]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ense-is-great/

Through six games, the Chiefs are the worst defense ever measured in yards allowed. They’ve yielded 2,809 yards, or 468.2 per game, and are on pace for 7,491 yards allowed over the full season. That would smash the record set by the 2012 Saints, the only team in history to give up more than 7,000 yards. No team that’s allowed even 6,600 yards in a season has ever finished with a winning record.

[kcxiv]

Worst defense i have ever seen in my 35plus years watching football. they are just bad.

[Randallflagg]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

Worst defense i have ever seen in my 35plus years watching football. they are just bad.

Nearly 55 years for this guy. I agree, I’ve never seen anything quite like it. With a serviceable defense, this team would be unstoppable. As it stands, Reid’s only option (he isn’t going to send Sutton packing) is to try to simply outscore their opponent.

If he doesn’t can Sutton at the end of the season - I don’t know......

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

Worst defense i have ever seen in my 35plus years watching football. they are just bad.

But I keep being told by people here that this isn't anywhere near as bad as the 2003 defense, despite practically every metric pointing to the contrary.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by bobbything

But I keep being told by people here that this isn't anywhere near as bad as the 2003 defense, despite practically every metric pointing to the contrary.

The defense last night forced a punt. They got a strip sack. They got a turnover on downs and they forced 4 field goal tries, not counting the final one.

That is way ahead of the 2003 KC no-punt playoff game vs Indy.

When the current defense has a game where they allow a TD on every possession, get back to me.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

The defense last night forced a punt. They got a strip sack. They got a turnover on downs and they forced 4 field goal tries, not counting the final one.

That is way ahead of the 2003 KC no-punt playoff game vs Indy.

When the current defense has a game where they allow a TD on every possession, get back to me.

I must had missed the part where they forced a punt. I know they got turnovers and forced turnover on downs. But I don't recall ever seeing them forcing a punt.....

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

The defense last night forced a punt. They got a strip sack. They got a turnover on downs and they forced 4 field goal tries, not counting the final one.

That is way ahead of the 2003 KC no-punt playoff game vs Indy.

When the current defense has a game where they allow a TD on every possession, get back to me.

First, the defense did not force a punt. Second, as I've mentioned in numerous other threads, the only thing people tend to point to is that ONE GAME in the playoffs. Yes, it was an abortion and historically bad, but that defense, as a whole, was nowhere near as bad as this defense. Go back and look at the numbers.

Edit: If people want to point to points given up vs. yards given up, that is essentially what this year's team should shoot for. 19th and 29th, respectively, with 37 turnovers 2003. That's the ceiling for this team. In fact, last year's defense was closer to 2003 than this year's defense is.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by bobbything

First, the defense did not force a punt. Second, as I've mentioned in numerous other threads, the only thing people tend to point to is that ONE GAME in the playoffs. Yes, it was an abortion and historically bad, but that defense, as a whole, was nowhere near as bad as this defense. Go back and look at the numbers.

Edit: If people want to point to points given up vs. yards given up, that is essentially what this year's team should shoot for. 19th and 29th, respectively, with 37 turnovers 2003. That's the ceiling for this team. In fact, last year's defense was closer to 2003 than this year's defense is.

My bad on the punt. After KC's punt, I thought welp, it is no longer a no-punt game forgetting it was only on one side.

It is a bit hard to compare eras. Everything favors the offense so much more and the stats reflect that. For the no punt Indy game, the combined score was fairly low.

But I stand by the statement that our defense had some stops and did enough to give our offense a chance to win it.

The strip sack and stopping them on fourth down was a big deal. If the 2003 defense had managed to do that, KC most likely would have won that game.

If the 2003 defense had forced a couple more filed goal tries, that could have also been the difference. And again, that was back when the rules were friendlier to defenses then than they are now.

And it may be only ONE GAME, but playoffs are one and done. We are likely to see Brady again.

[FlaChief58]

Well, can't have Mahomes be the only one setting new records

[JoeyChuckles]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ense-is-great/

The Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday night in New England showed they have the second-most explosive offense in football. The most explosive one? Whomever they happen to be playing.

Through six games, the Chiefs are the worst defense ever measured in yards allowed. They’ve yielded 2,809 yards, or 468.2 per game, and are on pace for 7,491 yards allowed over the full season. That would smash the record set by the 2012 Saints, the only team in history to give up more than 7,000 yards. No team that’s allowed even 6,600 yards in a season has ever finished with a winning record.

For all their offensive firepower, the Chiefs have somehow gained nearly 300 fewer yards than opponents (2,511). They are more efficient in yards per play — but not by much. Their opponents’ 6.56 average gain is the seventh most through six games since the 1970 merger. But defenses in 2018 are struggling league-wide: Two clubs this year are actually worse in yards allowed per play than the Chiefs — the Buccaneers (who have played just five games) and the Raiders.

Yes, the Kansas City offense is so good that the Chiefs are still 5-1. They’ve already won two games this year when they gave up more than 500 yards, while every other team in the 500 Club since 2000 is 63-186-3. They have allowed at least five entire football fields worth of offense three times — putting them easily on pace to break the single-season record of five by the 1950 Colts. Only seven other teams ever gave up four 500-plus-yard games in a single season. Could any team that’s so seemingly helpless on defense overcome such profound weakness on that side of the ball? Or could their defense somehow improve?



The stomach-turning numbers from the Chiefs’ defense can partially be explained by their offense. Patrick Mahomes and company have routinely jumped out to big leads, outscoring opponents by a league-leading 46 points in the first quarter. That has made opposing offenses play with urgency and desperation — two qualities that will generate yardage quickly in the NFL.
The good news for Andy Reid and the Chiefs is that every team that appears on the list above eventually got better. On average, they allowed 81.72 percent of their yardage per game for the remainder of the season. If the Chiefs enjoy a similar regression, they would allow 382.6 yards per game, which through Sunday of Week 6 would rank 23nd. That’s like being The Steel Curtain compared with where they are.

Kansas City doesn’t have to look far for an example of how to rebound on defense. The Patriots last year had allowed 2,644 yards (440.7 per game) at the same stage of the season — good for fifth worst since 1940 at the time. They improved that to 321.2 for the rest of the year and coasted to the Super Bowl. (Granted, that’s when they reverted to their prior form and lost 41-33 to the Eagles despite posting 613 yards of offense and never punting. The Pats’ defense gave up 5384 total yards.)

Or maybe Kansas City doesn’t even need to improve on defense. Mahomes is a big play waiting to happen, and the Chiefs have firepower everywhere on the field — from the backfield with Kareem Hunt, to middle of the field where Travis Kelce roams, to far downfield where Tyreek Hill hauls in Mahomes’s rockets. Plus defense seems optional this year, with the league on a record pace since 1950 in points, yards, yards per play and yards per pass play — and even yards per rush has never been higher. In other words, in 2018, NFL teams generally can’t stop anyone or anything.

[Simply Red]

YES!!

[JoeyChuckles]

If you ain't first, you're last.

[DaFace]

The hell is going on today with the reposts? This will be the fourth time I've had to merge them together.

[JoeyChuckles]

Originally Posted by DaFace

The hell is going on today with the reposts? This will be the fourth time I've had to merge them together.

Maybe cause I was editing mine after I posted? I see he beat me by 4 minutes.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by DaFace

The hell is going on today with the reposts? This will be the fourth time I've had to merge them together.

Is this statistically the worst set of posts ever?