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View Poll Results: Which best describes your opinion about how the we should handle our CB needs?
Do nothing - we'll be OK with the guys we have 8 5.10%
Be opportunistic - keep eyes open for a reasonable deal, but don't do anything major 66 42.04%
Be aggressive - be willing to trade a high draft pick or a key player 62 39.49%
Go all in - be willing to trade multiple high draft picks or key players 17 10.83%
Your options suck, DaFace 4 2.55%
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Old 09-17-2019, 08:57 AM  
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How would you prefer the Chiefs handle our CB needs?
Seems like there are wildly varying opinions on this, so let's see how people feel collectively.
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Old 09-17-2019, 05:33 PM   #106
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Not possible without some current contract restructuring and possibly mahomes taking a team friendly deal. They are at around 24m free cap next year IIRC including the penalty carryover. They can make it work, but will require a lot of restructuring.
The other thing is if we do want to have the option of franchise tag/trading jones in the event he out prices himself for us, we have to save the cap room to pull that off, whereas if we sign him we could just manipulate his cap hit for next year.
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Old 09-17-2019, 06:58 PM   #107
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To appreciate what we have now, please look back to last year.

2018 DB roster stats
Eric Berry - 2 games, 2 starts, 11 tackles, 1 missed tackle, 99 D snaps, 0 ST snaps
Kendall Fuller - 15 games, 15 starts, 82 tackles, 10 missed tackles, 1078 D snaps, 60 ST snaps
Jordan Lucas - 16 games, 4 starts, 32 tackles, 4 missed tackles, 262 D snaps, 218 ST snaps
Eric Murray - 15 games, 9 starts, 55 tackles, 4 missed tackles, 702 D snaps, 134 ST snaps
Steven Nelson - 16 games, 16 starts, 68 tackles, 13 missed tackles, 1164 D snaps, 1 ST snaps
Ron Parker - 15 games, 14 starts, 77 tackles, 7 missed tackles, 1027 D snaps, 0 ST snaps
Orlando Scandrick - 15 games, 7 starts, 44 tackles, 5 missed tackles, 788 D snaps, 26 ST snaps
Josh Shaw - 4 games, 0 starts, 4 tackles, 0 missed tackles, 32 D snaps, 51 ST snaps
Tremon Smith - 14 games, 1 starts, 5 tackles, 2 missed tackles, 74 D snaps, 196 ST snaps
Daniel Sorensen - 7 games, 3 starts, 26 tackles, 3 missed tackles, 354 D snaps, 53 ST snaps
Charvarius Ward - 13 games, 2 starts, 30 tackles, 0 missed tackles, 139 D snaps, 258 ST snaps
Armani Watts - 5 games, 0 starts, 5 tackles, 1 missed tackle, 62 D snaps, 75 ST snaps

Stats from https://www.pro-football-reference.c...8_advanced.htm
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Old 09-17-2019, 09:15 PM   #108
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After looking at last year's DBs, thought it might be interesting to see this year's in first two games.

Kendall Fuller - 2 games, 1 start, 13 tackles, 0 missed tackles, 97 D snaps, 0 ST snaps, 1 PD, 2 TFL, 1 Sack

Jordan Lucas - 1 games, 0 starts, 0 tackles, 0 missed tackles, 1 D snaps, 12 ST snaps

Bashaud Breeland - 2 games, 2 starts, 8 tackles, 0 missed tackles, 123 D snaps, 1 ST snap, 1 int, 2 PDs, 1 FR

Juan Thornhill - 2 games, 2 starts, 11 tackles, 1 missed tackles, 123 D snaps, 6 ST snaps

Tyrann Mathieu - 2 games, 2 starts, 5 tackles, 0 missed tackles, 122 D snaps, 0 ST snaps

Tremon Smith - 1 games, 0 starts, 0 tackles, 0 missed tackles, 0 D snaps, 16 ST snaps (Released and signed by Green Bay)

Daniel Sorensen - 2 games, 0 starts, 0 tackles, 0 missed tackles, 27 D snaps, 43 ST snaps

Charvarius Ward - 2 games, 2 starts, 11 tackles, 2 missed tackles, 123 D snaps, 14 ST snaps, 1 Int, 2 PDs, 1 FF

Armani Watts - 2 games, 0 starts, 0 tackles, 0 missed tackle, 0 D snaps, 35 ST snaps

Rashad Fenton - 1 game, 0 starts, 0 tackles, 0 missed tackle, 0 D snaps, 13 ST snaps

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Old 09-17-2019, 09:50 PM   #109
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I know Morris Claiborne will be coming on the roster after two more games, but right now we are carrying 4 CBs and one of those is Rashad Fenton.

I have read that Juan Thornhill or Tyrann Mathieu could play CB in a pinch but that would mean Daniel Sorensen is then probably playing Safety. I like Daniel in the role he is in now.

So looking around the NFL, I like Mike Jackson Sr who is currently on the Dallas Cowboy's practice squad. He is 6-1, 210, 22 years old, played at U of Miami (FL) and was a 5th round (158) pick of the Cowboys. If you watch Miami games from the last two years, he looks like a decent CB. He was number 28 for Miami.

At the combine he ran a 4.45 40 time, 40.5 vertical (so he has hop and speed), 130 in Broad, and 13 BP. He has a size and speed advantage over Rashad that could be used on special teams and Mike could be developed into a good CB. I kind of see him like Charvarius Ward, which will make some of you cringe, but I think they both can become good CBs for the Chiefs.
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