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The Le'Veon Bell Mock

So, Direkshun wants a Le'Veon Bell mock, eh?

Here goes (mind you I'd, personally, never sign Bell)...

Extensions

WR Tyreek Hill: It's imperative to lock up the team's most dynamic player long-term and give Mahomes a weapon for the foreseeable future. Hill must be retained and he won't get cheaper.
5 years/$95.0m contract extension with $65m in guarantees, $42m guaranteed at signing, and $20m signing bonus. Estimated Cap Hits 2019: 6.097 2020: 18.75 2021: 19.25 2022: 19.75 2023: 18.25 2024: 15.00
Notes: Hill will earn the NFL Proven Performance Escalator for the last year of his rookie deal which means his base salary will increase to the Right of First Refusal tender amount. That amount was $1.907 million in 2018 and increases by the percentage the cap increases with a minimum of 5% and a maximum of 10%. If the NFL carries through with an approximate 6% increase in the cap, then that base will be $2.02 million, which was used in the 2019 cap estimate.

DL Chris Jones: I've been preaching the same thing Andy Reid mentioned not too long ago: the quickest route to the QB is a straight line and having defensive lineman that can get after them up the middle is better than good edge rushers in today's NFL that sees QBs get the ball out quicker than ever. Jones has stepped up his game considerably and we should project that to continue.
5 years, $85.0m contract extension with $42.5m in guarantees, $36.0m guaranteed at signing, $17.5m signing bonus. Estimated Cap Hits 2019: 5.483 2020: 15.75 2021: 16.75 2022: 16.75 2023: 16.50 2024: 16.75

2019 Cap Effect (includes Hill PPE): +$8.8m

Restructures

SS Eric Berry: Agrees to convert $8.0m of base salary in 2019 to a signing bonus, freeing up $6.0m in cap space for 2019. Estimated Cap Hits 2019: 10.50 2020: 15.50 2021: 18.00 2022: 16.00
Notes: Berry has offseason surgery to repair the Haglund's deformity in his heel and will rehab throughout the summer. We actually see him play before December in 2019!

2019 Cap Effect: -$6.0m

Tags/Tenders

ED Dee Ford: Franchise Tag estimated $15.4m (more later)
FS Jordan Lucas: RFA Original Round Tender estimated $2.02m
OC Austin Reiter: RFA Original Round Tender estimated $2.02m (I'm just going to leave this in here until the details of his extension are released)
DL Justin Hamilton: ERFA Tender estimated $570k + $30k bonus
PK Harrison Butker: ERFA Tender estimated $570k + $30k bonus
WR Markus Kemp: ERFA Tender estimated $570k + $30k bonus
WR Gehrig Deiter: ERFA Tender estimated $570k + $30k bonus

2019 Cap Effect: +$21.88m

Free Agent Signings

RB Le'Veon Bell (PIT): Chiefs address their RB position by going for the top back in free agency, and perhaps in the NFL to replace the departed Kareem Hunt. Someone will pay what he wants for his production, so why not the Chiefs... right? Right?
4 years/$72.0m with $32.0m guaranteed at signing, including a $24m signing bonus. Estimated Cap Hits 2019: 14.50 2020: 17.50 2021 18.50 2022: 21.50

TE Maxx Williams (BAL): Williams has had alot of injuries throughout his career but he's still extremely young and has flashed what made him a high round pick. He'd make an excellent number two type with solid hands, route running, and blocking ability.
3 years/$9.0m with $1.5m signing bonus, and $1.0m roster bonuses in 2020 and 2021 if he's on the roster the 5th day of the new league year. Estimated Cap Hits 2019: 2.00 2020: 3.25 2021: 3.75

CB E.J. Gaines (CLE): A native of Lee's Summit, Gaines may want to return home. Gaines is a solid CB but has an injury history. He should come relatively cheap given that he has missed some games this year after signing a 1 year deal for $4m in Cleveland but he's been very solid when on the field.
3 years/$14m with $5.0m guaranteed and $3.0m signing bonus. Estimated Cap Hits 2019: 3.75 2020: 4.75 2021: 5.50

2019 Cap Effect: +$20.25m

Free Agent Re-Signings

CB Steven Nelson: Nelson has proven to be a solid CB here in KC as a starter with continued improvement throughout his tenure. If the team can expect him to continue to play as well or better than he has this year then he deserves a re-signing.
4 years/$31.0m with $10.0m guaranteed at signing, and $6.0m signing bonus and another $6.0m guaranteed (salary) if on the roster the 5th day of the 2020 league year. Estimated Cap Hits 2019: 5.50 2020: 7.75 2021: 8.50 2022: 9.25

RB Spencer Ware: Ware is just a solid all-around back and that makes it difficult to get rid of him. Once he was healthy, Reid immediately turned to him as Hunt's primary backup and he's been nothing but a team player. I think he's brought back on a friendly deal.
2 year/$3.0m with $500k roster bonuses in each year. Estimated Cap Hits: 2019: $1.40 2020: 1.60

All PS on Minimal Deals that likely don't affect Top-51.

2019 Cap Effect: +6.90m

Let Walk

DE Allen Bailey - Bailey has definitely ran too hot and cold since receiving his deal and his performance against the run has dropped considerably. It's time to move on.
FB Anthony Sherman - Sherman is probably the best pure fullback in the NFL and he's excellent on special teams, but he's not especially worth tying up a couple million per year on. The league is moving to more of an H-back roll at the position where receiving is a big deal. Sherman is a good receiver, but he's a tank going down the field. I look for him to move on.
CB Orlando Scandrick - Scandrick has been a nice stop-gap, but certainly not the answer long-term and his lapses can be atrocious. If he can be brought back on the cheap, I'd re-sign him but it'd have to be cheap.
TE Demetrius Harris - He never developed on his last contract enough to bother retaining him and his hands are stone. Time to move on.
FS Josh Shaw - Hasn't really been on the field much to flash anything. Could be a vet min re-signing but I'm not banking on it.
RB Damien Williams - Doesn't have any noteworthy production to bother bringing back, but may change my mind between now and the end of season if he's given more opportunities.
OC Mitch Morse - Too many concussions and too much time in the tub. He's great when he's on the field but you can't give the guy a contract with that history.
FS Ron Parker - He was dumped last year for good reason but brought back to continue his garbage play. The team really needs a much better solution long-term.
WR De'Anthony Thomas - A nice kick return option if he's healthy, but he's always missing time. It's time to move on and find a healthier alternative.
OLB Frank Zombo - See above. Wouldn't be here if not for injury.
ILB Terrence Smith - Definitely has shown nothing to make me think the Chiefs should retain him for any reason, and certainly not at a $2m tender. Adios amigo.
WR Chris Conley - The problem I have with Chris Conley is not his talent, it's that the Chiefs have some serious money tied up in the position and you start looking at what Buehler talks about in terms of salary per units of production and you have a hard time fitting Conley in. He's a solid receiver that's going to catch the balls he's thrown but when he gives you 1 catch a game most of the time then you gotta tell yourself you can find that production from a really cheap guy.

Trades

Chiefs trade Dee Ford to the Seattle Seahawks for the 25th overall selection (based upon current standings).
Note: My mindset is that the Chiefs must do their best to extend Hill and Jones since they appear to be lynchpins. Ford is a nice player, but inconsistent although very much improved. I'd be okay signing the kid on a deal not that far off of what I'm handing Bell in this mock but you can't have everything. Tag and trade is the logical choice and I think he could bring a 1st round pick.
Chiefs trade #25 selection and 2018 2nd round selection to the Colts for the 15th overall selection.
I could have just sent Ford and a 2nd to the Colts for a first but what's the fun in that?

2019 Cap Effect: -$15.4m

Draft

Estimated Rookie Pool: $6.46m
2019 Cap Effect: +$2.50m

1. FS Deionte Thompson, Alabama (6'2" 195)
A missile coming down hill in the run game and very solid in pass coverage, he's this year's best safety. Athleticism to run all over the field and play single high. If Veach doesn't get his man in free agency, then I believe he's going to be aggressive in fixing the weakest link on the defense.
1. DL Jerry Tillery, Notre Dame (6'6" 305)
A monster in the middle that can push the pocket very similarly to Chris Jones. Destroyed Michigan and Stanford this year.
2. ED DeAndre Walker, Georgia (6'2" 250)
Walker is the type of 3-4 OLB I think the NFL will be trending to more and more. He's a bit undersized, but he's quick and exteremly versatile in that he can rush the passer and is very functional in coverage. Very similar body type to Dee Ford.
3. WR Anthony Ratliff-Williams, North Carolina (6'1" 205)
Built like Sammy Watkins with good speed, good hands, and excellent downfield tracking ability. Very good at high-pointing the football in traffic. Good acceleration off the line and quickness in and out of breaks. Outstanding return specialist.
5. DL Kingsley Keke, Texas A&M (6'4" 305)
Another defensive lineman with good initial burst and quickness that can disrupt the LOS. The Chiefs will have to double-dip at DE whether it be in the draft or a combination of that and FA.
6. LB Ulysees Gilbert III, Akron (6'0" 225)
Off-ball, weakside linebacker with outstanding range and speed. Excellent coverage linebacker. If the Chiefs don't go after a top-tier starter, they need to at least fill in the depth and special teams.
7. OL Sean Rawlings, Ole Miss (6'5" 295)
Athletic offensive lineman with experience at OT and C, but looks best inside. He'll need to get stronger at the pro level.

Total Estimated Remaining Cap Space: $5.51m

Roster (Not representative of 53)

QB: Patrick Mahomes, Chad Henne, Chase Litton
RB: Le'Veon Bell, Spencer Ware, Darrel Williams
FB:
TE: Travis Kelce, Maxx Williams, Deon Yelder
WR: Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, Demarcus Robinson, Anthony Ratliff-Williams, Byron Pringle, Marcus Kemp, Gehrig Dieter
OT: Eric Fisher, Mitchell Schwartz, Andrew Wylie
OG: Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Cameron Erving, Ryan Hunter, Khalil McKenzie
OC: Austin Reiter, Sean Rawlings, Jimmy Murray
DE: Chris Jones, Jerry Tillery, Kingsley Keke, Justin Hamilton, Joey Ivie
NT: Derrick Nnadi, Xavier Williams
OLB: Justin Houston, Breeland Speaks, DeAndre Walker, Tanoh Kpassagnon, Rob McCray
ILB: Anthony Hitchens, Dorian O'Daniel, Ben Niemann, Reggie Ragland, Ulysees Gilbert III
CB: Kendall Fuller, Steven Nelson, E.J. Gaines, Charvarius Ward, Tremon Smith, D'Montre Wade
FS: Deionte Thompson, Jordan Lucas, Eric Murray
SS: Eric Berry, Daniel Sorensen, Armani Watts
ST: Harrison Butker, Dustin Colquitt, James Winchester
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Old 12-14-2018, 11:24 AM   #31
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Old 12-17-2018, 07:24 PM   #32
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I like Bell to kc...I think those opposed are overthinking things a bit. Although I love these guys, I'd prefer to pay Ford, Jones, & Bell > Houston, Berry, & Watson at this point. The latter three should all be approached regarding restructuring.
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Old 12-17-2018, 07:52 PM   #33
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I like Bell to kc...I think those opposed are overthinking things a bit. Although I love these guys, I'd prefer to pay Ford, Jones, & Bell > Houston, Berry, & Watson at this point. The latter three should all be approached regarding restructuring.
Youíre a crazy person. The value for salary dollars just arenít there. Bell is better than the Williamsí but that money needs spent in a billion other places.
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Old 12-19-2018, 07:26 AM   #34
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I like Bell to kc...I think those opposed are overthinking things a bit. Although I love these guys, I'd prefer to pay Ford, Jones, & Bell > Houston, Berry, & Watson at this point. The latter three should all be approached regarding restructuring.
You're not paying Bell Spencer Ware money.

You're not paying him Jamaal Charles money.

Hell, you're not even paying him Justin Houston money.

You'd be on the hook for a ****ing stupid amount of money. For a RB, the most oft-injured position and shortest career lifespan in all of ****ing football.

****. That. ****ing. Nonsense.
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Old 12-19-2018, 09:18 AM   #35
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Bell has already had off field issues, been suspended IIRC, and has had injury issues.

Just, no.
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Old 12-19-2018, 11:34 AM   #36
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You're not paying Bell Spencer Ware money.

You're not paying him Jamaal Charles money.

Hell, you're not even paying him Justin Houston money.

You'd be on the hook for a ****ing stupid amount of money. For a RB, the most oft-injured position and shortest career lifespan in all of ****ing football.

****. That. ****ing. Nonsense.

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Old 12-19-2018, 01:21 PM   #37
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I just think in today's game, paying a RB a shit ton of money, in a passing era, is just stupid. It's the position that traditionally gets hit the hardest, the most often, and the return on the investment/longevity is the worst of all positions in the sport. RB's grow on trees. I'd draft 1 or 2 every few years and just keep cycle going, and would never spend a 1st on one.

If you have a good OL, your RB can be average and you can get by with really good results. Pay/keep your fatties, they last longer (unless youre Mitch Morse)
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Bell has WR skills as well though...that's where his value would be in this offense, a guy who is a threat as RB but creates mismatches in the pass game.

With how the NFL is now I think the smartest thing to do may be to go all offense and then draft defense and keep replacing them with cheap guys other than maybe a real star you find.
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Seems our current starting RB is fine and suits the team. Use bell money elsewhere.
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:48 AM   #40
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Some interesting stuff here, but that front 7 would be an unmitigated disaster which our offense and maybe even improved secondary play wouldn't overcome.

It's fun to speculate on Bell, but that amount of $ simply has to go on defense. Doesn't matter if it's Earl Thomas, Grady Jarrett, Landon Collins or whoever else escapes the franchise tag. We saw the impact of having a good/great player replacing a trash can in just one half vs the Chargers. And then again by not having that in the 2nd half.
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Old 12-22-2018, 07:45 AM   #41
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You're not paying Bell Spencer Ware money.

You're not paying him Jamaal Charles money.

Hell, you're not even paying him Justin Houston money.

You'd be on the hook for a ****ing stupid amount of money. For a RB, the most oft-injured position and shortest career lifespan in all of ****ing football.

****. That. ****ing. Nonsense.

I understand I'd be paying Bell Sammy Watkins'esque money. I was alright with paying Sammy because with him on the field no single receiver can be doubled without leaving Mahomes with a mismatch elsewhere. However, I'd argue that signing the leagues top RB with WR skill sets would be of greater benefit than paying Watkins.
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