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Old 09-19-2014, 09:52 AM  
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Let's talk WRs

Who's your top ranked receiver right now?

For me, the most pro-ready and best all around prospect at WR is Amari Cooper. He would come in and immediately start across from Bowe and eventually replace him as the primary WR.

What's wrong with Sammy Coates?

The guy has all of the tools in the world, I would equate him to Vernon Davis but at the WR position, but he hasn't produced much at all this season. Coates isn't even close to being his team's leading receiver so I'm not going to blame it on the scheme. Physically, Coates looks like a top 10 pick but his production is that of a mid to late rounder. Where would you take him?

Any thoughts on Coates' teammate, D'haquille Williams?

There is a massive difference in production between he and Sammy Coates so far this year; yes, this could be entirely due to Coates being injured from the Arkansas game but Coates only caught one pass in that game and dropped a possible TD pass despite playing 52 snaps against the Razorbacks. Williams is a JUCO transfer with good size, speed, and explosiveness, though not on the same level as Coates as far as pure physical ability goes. Is he a potential #1 WR or just a 2 at best?

Does DGB declare? If so, do you even dare to touch him given his off-field issues?

Despite not playing this season, I think that there is a real possibility that DGB does declare for the 2015 NFL draft; he just doesn't seem like the type of person who would be willing to go through another year of college over getting paid as a pro athlete. If he does declare, what round would you be willing to take a risk on him? The guy has had problems with at least two key NFL issues, abuse of women and weed. DGB has top 5 talent but an off-field reputation that would have him banned from the league if he had committed those acts as a Pro.

Do Jaelen Strong, Kevin White, or Devante Parker have enough speed to be potential #1 WRs? If not, are their other gifts good enough for them to be close to what Larry Fitzgerald has been in the league?

Is Stefon Diggs actually that fast? When I watch him, I don't see the same dimension of speed that guys like Jackson, Wallace, etc have. I'll be very curious to see what he actually runs at the Combine.

Who are you guys keeping your eyes on this year at the WR position?
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:04 AM   #76
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Not in the 1st or 2nd round, but Nelson Agholor?
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:38 AM   #77
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Not in the 1st or 2nd round, but Nelson Agholor?
I'd take him in the 3rd but I don't know how much of an upgrade he would be over AJ Jenkins. They kind of have the same weaknesses and strengths.

Strengths:

Speed
Quickness
RAC

Weaknesses:

Consistent ball skills
Catching in traffic
Consistent hands
Strength against press coverage

I definitely don't see him as a potential #1 WR. His upside is as a #2.
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:40 AM   #78
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Here is a comparison that you might like for Agholor:

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USC junior WR Nelson Agholor was compared to a "young Reggie Wayne" by an NFC scout.
The comparison originated from Agholor's ability to get in and out of his breaks and route running. "One concern the scout expressed about Agholor was field awareness," NFL media writes, citing the receiver stepping out of bounds before converting a fourth down play. The receiver class is shaping up to be another great one, which is noteworthy since last year's group is already making an immediate impact. Oct 30 - 9:46 AM
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:28 PM   #79
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Justin Hardy of East Carolina. He's been looking good. 2nd or 3rd round pick maybe
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:35 PM   #80
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I'd take him in the 3rd but I don't know how much of an upgrade he would be over AJ Jenkins. They kind of have the same weaknesses and strengths.

Strengths:

Speed
Quickness
RAC

Weaknesses:

Consistent ball skills
Catching in traffic
Consistent hands
Strength against press coverage

I definitely don't see him as a potential #1 WR. His upside is as a #2.
Agh plot is a very good route runner while Jenkins isn't. Would love this kid on our team.
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:36 PM   #81
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I'd take him in the 3rd but I don't know how much of an upgrade he would be over AJ Jenkins. They kind of have the same weaknesses and strengths.

Strengths:

Speed
Quickness
RAC

Weaknesses:

Consistent ball skills
Catching in traffic
Consistent hands
Strength against press coverage

I definitely don't see him as a potential #1 WR. His upside is as a #2.
Agholor is a very good route runner while Jenkins isn't. Would love this kid on our team.
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:54 PM   #82
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I'm just curious, but how is Jenkins not a good route runner specifically? Every time I see the all 22 or he's targeted, he seems to be open.

Not being snarky, just curious.
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:07 PM   #83
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For you guys who want Cobb or any upgrade in the slot, Justin Hardy is a player to keep an eye on. Much will depend on his 40 time when it comes to what round he'll be drafted. I'd take him in the 3rd.

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ECU senior WR Justin Hardy caught 15 passes for 181 yards and a touchdown in Thursday's 54-46 loss to Cincinnati.
Quarterback Shane Carden threw the ball Hardy's way on almost every possession. The senior receiver made several impressive leaping catches, showing his ability to wrestle with defenders in the air. Hardy is just 6-foot, but he shows excellent body control and an ability to come down with jump balls, as he did on a 31-yard pass in the third quarter. He also caught an 18-yard touchdown out of the slot in the fourth quarter on a scrambling throw by Carden. Hardy feels comfortable catching balls over the middle, a trait that could make him a valuable slot receiver at the next level.
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Anyone seen much of Deontay Greenberry this year?
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Check out this kid from William & Mary. Love his ball skills, body control, and concentration. Supposed to have 4.4 speed with a 6'1" frame as well. Sounds like a good bet as a small school "sleeper".

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Justin Hardy will not be there in round 3, I can guarantee you that. Minimum in my eyes is middle of round 2.
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Check out this kid from William & Mary. Love his ball skills, body control, and concentration. Supposed to have 4.4 speed with a 6'1" frame as well. Sounds like a good bet as a small school "sleeper".

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Why I don't like Funchess:

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Mlive.com's Nick Baumgardner notes that Michigan junior WR Devin Funchess "has NFL talent," but "he hasn't played like it for a full game all season."
"Funchess has NFL talent. But he hasn't played like it for a full game all season. Someone on this offense (probably multiple people) are going to have to have super efforts for the Wolverines to have any shot," Baumgardner wrote. In three straight games, Funchess hasn't cracked the 50-yard receiving mark and it's been four straight since he's scored. Three of his four touchdowns came in the opening contest of the season. Baumgardner notes that Funchess has "spent the past month dropping passes, struggling to get open and really doing nothing in terms of playing through or against contact." While it's been a tough season for the Wolverines' prospect, he still is one the best physical talents in the nation. We're sure that smart NFL teams will understand that circumstance has hurt his numbers.
Even with his QB sucking, I'd still like to see him play hard and use his size to outmuscle DBs. He hasn't done that so far.
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