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Old 09-19-2014, 09:52 AM  
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Let's talk WRs

Who's your top ranked receiver right now?

For me, the most pro-ready and best all around prospect at WR is Amari Cooper. He would come in and immediately start across from Bowe and eventually replace him as the primary WR.

What's wrong with Sammy Coates?

The guy has all of the tools in the world, I would equate him to Vernon Davis but at the WR position, but he hasn't produced much at all this season. Coates isn't even close to being his team's leading receiver so I'm not going to blame it on the scheme. Physically, Coates looks like a top 10 pick but his production is that of a mid to late rounder. Where would you take him?

Any thoughts on Coates' teammate, D'haquille Williams?

There is a massive difference in production between he and Sammy Coates so far this year; yes, this could be entirely due to Coates being injured from the Arkansas game but Coates only caught one pass in that game and dropped a possible TD pass despite playing 52 snaps against the Razorbacks. Williams is a JUCO transfer with good size, speed, and explosiveness, though not on the same level as Coates as far as pure physical ability goes. Is he a potential #1 WR or just a 2 at best?

Does DGB declare? If so, do you even dare to touch him given his off-field issues?

Despite not playing this season, I think that there is a real possibility that DGB does declare for the 2015 NFL draft; he just doesn't seem like the type of person who would be willing to go through another year of college over getting paid as a pro athlete. If he does declare, what round would you be willing to take a risk on him? The guy has had problems with at least two key NFL issues, abuse of women and weed. DGB has top 5 talent but an off-field reputation that would have him banned from the league if he had committed those acts as a Pro.

Do Jaelen Strong, Kevin White, or Devante Parker have enough speed to be potential #1 WRs? If not, are their other gifts good enough for them to be close to what Larry Fitzgerald has been in the league?

Is Stefon Diggs actually that fast? When I watch him, I don't see the same dimension of speed that guys like Jackson, Wallace, etc have. I'll be very curious to see what he actually runs at the Combine.

Who are you guys keeping your eyes on this year at the WR position?
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Old 11-03-2014, 01:15 AM   #61
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I was thinking Laquan Treadwell would be a nice prospect for chiefs if he came out early as I watched the ole miss auburn game--then he suffered what looked to be a pretty serious injury at the end--really unfortunate for the kid
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Old 11-08-2014, 05:08 PM   #62
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Duke Williams suffered a knee injury. Damn, looks like he probably won't declare for the draft.
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Old 11-08-2014, 07:19 PM   #63
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Tyler Lockett late?
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Old 11-08-2014, 07:21 PM   #64
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Tyler Lockett late?
Don't know about that, I'd rather stick to developing Albert Wilson and DAT over bringing in another undersized WR.

Wilson is built like a RB with a WR's skillset.
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Old 11-08-2014, 07:38 PM   #65
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Old 11-11-2014, 11:39 PM   #66
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Not a big college football fan, but I like to study the draft. How many of these college WRs mentioned in this thread are true #1 receivers in the NFL?
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Old 11-12-2014, 03:38 AM   #67
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Not a big college football fan, but I like to study the draft. How many of these college WRs mentioned in this thread are true #1 receivers in the NFL?
IMO, there are 5 with true #1 potential:

Devante Parker
Amari Cooper
Kevin White
Sammie Coates
Jaelen Strong

Coates is the boom or bust guy, his hands are a bit too inconsistent for my taste but he has the physical potential to become a huge threat in this league. Of course, there are tons of elite athletes who failed in the NFL at the WR position due to poor ball skills, average body control, and a lack of concentration. Coates could end up just being a situational deep threat his entire career or he could magically turn the corner with great coaching and become a complete WR.

He and Jaelen Strong will be the two who are available at our pick if we are picking late 20s in the 1st. Maybe Kevin White but I have a feeling that someone higher is going to fall in love with him.

Parker and Cooper will be gone in the top 15 if not top 10 picks.
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:36 AM   #68
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Parker scares me a bit.

The guy is absolutely a stud downfield. Highpoints the ball as well as anyone I've seen in college recently.

However, he's not very quick with his get off from the line of scrimmage. Plus, he's been injured quite a bit.

He reminds me a lot of former Boise State stud WR Austin Pettis.

I'm not sure I'd spend a first on Parker.
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:08 AM   #69
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I really want Amari Cooper although he probably won't be around by the time we pick. I think Dorial Green Beckham is too risky of a prospect to use a first round pick on. If he was to be there in the 2nd round when we pick then I would give it a shot. He just reminded me of Justin Blackmon too much with the off field issues. As far as giving up picks to move up to get Amari Cooper....I'm really hesitate to give up anything but 4th-7th round picks and that wouldn't be enough to really move up by much if anything. What the Bills gave up for Sammy Watkins was crazy...but teams seem to do that stuff every year. If its for a QB that's one thing go ahead and take the shot but for a WR I think thats pushing it because half the time they don't work out anyway. Not that QBs do either but its more of a risk VS reward that I'm willing to accept. Often big trades to move up don't really help the team in the long run. And we need our early picks to address the O-Line and other areas besides WR. I would rather see a WR taken in our spot, where ever it is in the first, and then another one taken in the third then to use a third round pick to move up higher in the first. If that makes any sense. I want an elite WR but WR picks seem to be a crap shoot so lets pick up two to help our odds of getting at least one good one. Besides we need two of them anyways.
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Rashad Greene reminds me of a young (and better) version of Avery. Would love to see KC go after him in rd 2.. if he falls far enough, and WR is not addressed earlier.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:57 PM   #71
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I really want Amari Cooper although he probably won't be around by the time we pick. I think Dorial Green Beckham is too risky of a prospect to use a first round pick on. If he was to be there in the 2nd round when we pick then I would give it a shot. He just reminded me of Justin Blackmon too much with the off field issues. As far as giving up picks to move up to get Amari Cooper....I'm really hesitate to give up anything but 4th-7th round picks and that wouldn't be enough to really move up by much if anything. What the Bills gave up for Sammy Watkins was crazy...but teams seem to do that stuff every year. If its for a QB that's one thing go ahead and take the shot but for a WR I think thats pushing it because half the time they don't work out anyway. Not that QBs do either but its more of a risk VS reward that I'm willing to accept. Often big trades to move up don't really help the team in the long run. And we need our early picks to address the O-Line and other areas besides WR. I would rather see a WR taken in our spot, where ever it is in the first, and then another one taken in the third then to use a third round pick to move up higher in the first. If that makes any sense. I want an elite WR but WR picks seem to be a crap shoot so lets pick up two to help our odds of getting at least one good one. Besides we need two of them anyways.

Eric Berry + 4th round pick to swap 1st round picks with (insert team X) and snag Amari Cooper in the top 10? ...is that even plausible? IDK

That would allow us to spend Berry's cap space to keep both Hali and Houston theoretically. Our D looks pretty good right now with Parker, and Cooper + Bowe sounds like a best case scenario at WR.
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:45 PM   #72
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Eric Berry + 4th round pick to swap 1st round picks with (insert team X) and snag Amari Cooper in the top 10? ...is that even plausible? IDK

That would allow us to spend Berry's cap space to keep both Hali and Houston theoretically. Our D looks pretty good right now with Parker, and Cooper + Bowe sounds like a best case scenario at WR.
I don't think that you have to sacrifice some strength on the defense in order to significantly improve the offensive weapons. That can easily be done just through the draft or via FA.
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:57 PM   #73
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What do you guys think about deandre smelter? I like him, this is only his second season playing football. He has 600 yards and 6 TD's this season. He Was a baseball player at gt, a pitcher with a 95 mph fast ball. 6'3 220. Aggressive blocker, but doesn't always use his hands, I like how gt left him in to pass block once. not elite speed but pretty dang quick. Pretty raw guy. Any guesses on where he gets taken? Could be a nice late round pickup

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DGB smokes pot...which of these guys don't? He's too much of a freak athlete not to go in the first round. He's not a behavior risk outside of the weed.

And no, he won't ever play a down at OU.
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Old 11-13-2014, 02:10 AM   #75
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DGB smokes pot...which of these guys don't? He's too much of a freak athlete not to go in the first round. He's not a behavior risk outside of the weed.

And no, he won't ever play a down at OU.
Not just the pot thing. He also, if I remember correctly, had an incident where he pushed his GF's roommate down some stairs and dragged his gf by the hair. No charges were pressed because the GF convinced her roommate not to press any. That's much bigger than the pot thing.
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