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Old 01-09-2019, 03:08 AM  
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Sleep affecting work?

I'm sure I'm not the only "night owl" on this board, but has anyone reached the point of where being a "night owl" / staying up late has affected their work life?

Perhaps calling out, missing your alarm clock, arriving to work late, falling asleep on the job, etc?

It's been happening far too often for me. Luckily, I have a bunch of time off saved that I can use, so I just bang out, but overall it's just a terrible rut to be in.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:35 PM   #31
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I've been tired for the last decade lol.

it's getting better, but I basically need to be in bed by probably 9 or 9:30 during the week.
weekends come around I'm usually beat down and exhausted and sleep in a bit but find that even on the weekends I need a nap.

my issues are definitely stress related. but I've been trying to cut out the booze and try not to eat as bad as I used to. It's seemed to help. I'm at least falling asleep somewhat quickly during the week. compared to years ago where I woudl just lie awake and dread the next day due to hating my job.

my current gig is stressful, but I don't 'hate' it like I have jobs in the past.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:57 PM   #32
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Have some kids. I used to be a night owl and struggle to wake up at 8:30 or 9. Then I had kids. Now, no matter when I get to sleep, I’m up around 6:30 or 7 at the latest. Sometimes I get a little tired mid day. A sugar free Red Bull does the trick
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:59 PM   #33
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Seriously - if you have "shift work disorder" - you may want to look into taking modafinil. I'm a little scared to take it very often - but I've really never read of any harmful long term side effects. In fact, it may even be a good medication to take to mitigate Alzheimers.

I'll usually play poker Midnight to 6am 4 times a week - and get 4-5 hrs of sleep those nights. The rest of the time I sleep about 11 hrs so my sleep schedule is kind of weird. This stuff doesn't even make you feel like you haven't had any sleep and you don't feel like you are on drugs like adderall.
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:05 PM   #34
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Big time night owl here. It's very rare for me to be in bed before midnight. 2am to 9am is my perfect night of sleep. Sucks making an 8-5 job compatible with that.

I don't have any problems falling asleep though. Once my head hits the pillow I'm asleep within minutes.
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:06 PM   #35
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:17 PM   #36
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:47 PM   #38
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I tried one and it was worse than without. Simply couldn't fall asleep with it on. First I felt like I was suffocating and when they finally adjusted the output to cure that, it would force air out through my mouth, waking me up.

I'm just doomed. It takes me an hour or more to fall asleep, I wake up 3 or 4 times a night and can't fall back asleep. I've been napping more and more during the day and I'm tired all the time. Tried Valerian root, melatonin, diphenhydramine...nothing really works well.
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I tried one and it was worse than without. Simply couldn't fall asleep with it on. First I felt like I was suffocating and when they finally adjusted the output to cure that, it would force air out through my mouth, waking me up.

I'm just doomed. It takes me an hour or more to fall asleep, I wake up 3 or 4 times a night and can't fall back asleep. I've been napping more and more during the day and I'm tired all the time. Tried Valerian root, melatonin, diphenhydramine...nothing really works well.
used to have that problem. couldn't breathe through my nose because it had been broken too many times(fists, baseballs, fists). had surgery on it and they chiseled out the nostrils or whatever and after it wasn't swolled(thanks herm) any more i wasn't a mouth-breather.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:04 PM   #40
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used to have that problem. couldn't breathe through my nose because it had been broken too many times(fists, baseballs, fists). had surgery on it and they chiseled out the nostrils or whatever and after it wasn't swolled(thanks herm) any more i wasn't a mouth-breather.
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That's not my issue, actually. I used to be a mouth breather too - born with a deviated septum that caused all kinds of issues. I've had 5 surgeries (septoplasty, ethmoidectomy, frontal sinuplasty, plus revisions) and can breathe through my nose now.

My issue is that with the nasal canula, too low a pressure and I felt like I was suffocating. When they turned the pressure up to fix that, it started rerouting air from my throat back OUT of my mouth, so not keeping my airway open plus startling me and waking me up.

Their solution was a massive face mask that covered both my nose and mouth. I can't sleep wearing a freaking gas mask, so I gave up.
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My mom uses this torture device for snoring/apnea. It creates a suction that sucks your tongue out to open the airway. Not sure how the hell she can sleep like that. There'd be no ****ing way I could use one...

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I tried one and it was worse than without. Simply couldn't fall asleep with it on. First I felt like I was suffocating and when they finally adjusted the output to cure that, it would force air out through my mouth, waking me up.

I'm just doomed. It takes me an hour or more to fall asleep, I wake up 3 or 4 times a night and can't fall back asleep. I've been napping more and more during the day and I'm tired all the time. Tried Valerian root, melatonin, diphenhydramine...nothing really works well.
Eat right, lose weight, eliminate stressors, limit caffeine, exercise, sleep w/head inclined.

Don't get tied to that CPAP for life. Make lifestyle changes. Don't get me started on sleep studies and the medical community wanting to classify people with severe sleep apnea to get a product sold. While they should be pushing lifestyle changes as the best alternative. But they aren't in the business of selling fruits or veggies.
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My mom uses this torture device for snoring/apnea. It creates a suction that sucks your tongue out to open the airway. Not sure how the hell she can sleep like that. There'd be no ****ing way I could use one...

i'd be afraid i'd chew my tongue off in my sleep.
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Old 01-09-2019, 03:29 PM   #44
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Don't get tied to that CPAP for life. Make lifestyle changes. Don't get me started on sleep studies and the medical community wanting to classify people with severe sleep apnea to get a product sold. While they should be pushing lifestyle changes as the best alternative. But they aren't in the business of selling fruits or veggies.
I agree on lifestyle changes. As to sleep studies, the first one was my wife. She told me I stopped breathing and scared her. Hell, I didn't know. I was asleep and dreaming well.

I took an "At Home" sleep study. The results showed that I stopped breathing 80 times an hour. Then I found out what happens with the apnea. Once you stop breathing, the Fight or Flight syndrome kicks in. Adrenaline and cortisol flood the system. Cortisol is the "bad" hormone.

rapid weight gain mainly in the face, chest and abdomen contrasted with slender arms and legs.
a flushed and round face.
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osteoporosis.
skin changes (bruises and purple stretch marks)
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mood swings, which show as anxiety, depression or irritability.

I would sleep 10 hours, go to work and 4 hours later needed to take a nap. I was tired ALL the time. I put it towards age and being 10-20 lbs over weight.

After the Cpap, I couldn't take a nap. More energy etc. Is it perfect? No. Better? YES.

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My issue is that with the nasal canula, too low a pressure and I felt like I was suffocating. When they turned the pressure up to fix that, it started rerouting air from my throat back OUT of my mouth, so not keeping my airway open plus startling me and waking me up.
I too have a deviated septum, not major though.

It took me a good 2 weeks to get use the air pressure. I felt like I was inhaling a tornado. It wasn't comfortable. I still get a bit of air coming out my mouth, not much. I had the mask at first and didn't like it. I thought I was a mouth breather and was with the apnea. I got a "nasal prong" and love it. It wraps around your head up to the crown and the hose attaches at the top. I can roll all over the place and the hose just swivels. Sure cool.

I don't like the idea of being attached to a "machine", but it is better then the alternative. I hope as I lose weight and diet better with exercise, I will be able to do without. Until then, this is the best solution.

I hope this helps.
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