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Old 11-30-2018, 08:08 PM  
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Welp. Looks like we need a RB.

So who looks good in this upcoming draft?
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Old 12-07-2018, 03:38 PM   #76
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Learned an interesting fact last month - identical twins aren't hereditary. Just complete flukes; no reason to believe that their children will be any more predisposed to twins of their own.

Fraternal are hereditary and I'm pretty sure I recall it just traveling with the females, but for identicals they're just a one-off.

Would've never guessed that.

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No, it's fine. I think it's smart to draft twins to play RB. Increases our odds of finding a stud!!

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Old 12-07-2018, 04:42 PM   #77
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It makes no sense whatsoever to take a RB earlier than rd 3 in today's game.

Stupid.
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:36 PM   #78
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It makes no sense whatsoever to take a RB earlier than rd 3 in today's game.

Stupid.
Not if a stud is there. The facts are the facts, most of the best RB's are taken in the first or second rounds.
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Old 12-07-2018, 07:24 PM   #79
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Obliged sir.



I have a 4 year old daughter as well.

The girl twin is similar to her in a lot of ways but only to a point. She's weirdly thoughtful (I swear you cn see her sitting around thinking sometimes) and very type A - won't do anything until she's positive she can do it right. It's the damnedest thing. She wouldn't crawl until she could just...crawl. None of this army crawling or inchworm shit. She'd get down for a bit, decide she didn't like the view, sit back up. The mongoloid boy, meanwhile, is scooting all over the place and taking her stuff and knocking her over. And then one day she was just gone across the room at full throat. She was more mobile than he was within 48 hours of deciding she wanted to be mobile. She wouldn't feed herself until she could do a full pincher grip - she refused to do the smash and grab thing. Now the boy has a 2nd meal under his chair while she just sits there and can pick individual grains of rice up. She doesn't like to pull up on things because she can't cruise yet - but the moment she can cruise, she'll do it I'm sure. And she'll probably just skip the toddling phase and go from crawling to running marathons. She's just weird and manipulative. I worry that she's smarter than he all of us.

That mother!@#$ing boy, OTOH...{sigh}. He's the first to try everything and he just goddamn sucks at it forever. He's reckless and I'm pretty sure he's stupid. He climbs on everything, pulls on everything, hurls things across the room, gets into everything - the boy is a wrecking ball. But he's happier than a pig in shit all the time and thinks everything is just the funniest thing in the world.

I was not prepared for the boy. I'm probably going to kill him. Or more accurately just let him kill himself.

And the funniest part is that the two of them don't even look like distant cousins and neither of them look like the oldest. They're all three just a mis-mash of component features that we can generally find on their mother or I. Except for the blue eyes - nearest we can tell is that my mom has 'em but mine are brown, hers are green and nothing else about that lummox having blue eyes makes sense.

Twins are weird.
My son is 10 months old and sounds exactly. My daughter (also 4) was fairly calm and collected. And whip smart.

My son is big strong and reckless. He is a really happy kid and laughs at anything but whatever he does is balls out as fast and hard as he can do it. Squeeze your finger, crawl, pound Cheerios, whatever. Balls out.

And he leads with his head. Christ. I swear to god he needs to go into the concussion protocol daily.
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Old 12-08-2018, 05:03 AM   #80
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Not if a stud is there. The facts are the facts, most of the best RB's are taken in the first or second rounds.
If the Chiefs are picking 32, and they have to choose between a CB or a DL who everyone agrees is late first round talent, and a clone of Saquon Barkley, I'd much rather they chose the DL/CB than Saquon at 32.

On average, it does seem like the first round running backs do perform slightly better, but for the production/increase of win chance you get from a "stud" RB just isn't worth the resource of a 1st round pick, especially not for the Chiefs next year.
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Old 12-08-2018, 07:15 AM   #81
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If the Chiefs are picking 32, and they have to choose between a CB or a DL who everyone agrees is late first round talent, and a clone of Saquon Barkley, I'd much rather they chose the DL/CB than Saquon at 32.

On average, it does seem like the first round running backs do perform slightly better, but for the production/increase of win chance you get from a "stud" RB just isn't worth the resource of a 1st round pick, especially not for the Chiefs next year.
If it's between an average defender and a potential stud rb then honestly i'm taking the rb. The chance to get a Barkley type talent won't be there for us often so you have to strike when you have a chance.

Anyway guys, the more i look at the rb options, the more impressive Kansas States Alex Barnes is looking. He's 6'1, well built and has decent speed. He can carry the ball and is decent catching it too. Saw an interview where he spoke about working hard on developing his route tree. I really think he may be the one for kc. Lord knows they must have seen him a ton already with him being a local kid.

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Old 12-08-2018, 01:34 PM   #82
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without Hunt, we're still a top offense. Should we look to re-stock the position? Of course.

This defense is SHIT. It's likely going to cost us a Lombardi this year. Let's not make that mistake next year.

High picks and FA money needs to go on that side of the ball.
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Old 12-08-2018, 02:18 PM   #83
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without Hunt, we're still a top offense. Should we look to re-stock the position? Of course.

This defense is SHIT. It's likely going to cost us a Lombardi this year. Let's not make that mistake next year.

High picks and FA money needs to go on that side of the ball.
There are only a select few players on the defensive side of the ball worth throwing a wad of cash at in free agency and, unfortunately, most of them play positions we have hefty contracts at already or our own free agents as worthy of re-signing. I think FA Money is going to be best spent on mid-tier offensive players and some defensive reclamation projects. I'm pretty much of the opinion that the top 3 picks in the draft need to be used to re-tool the defense and use the rest on whatever you want.
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Old 12-08-2018, 02:28 PM   #84
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There are only a select few players on the defensive side of the ball worth throwing a wad of cash at in free agency and, unfortunately, most of them play positions we have hefty contracts at already or our own free agents as worthy of re-signing. I think FA Money is going to be best spent on mid-tier offensive players and some defensive reclamation projects. I'm pretty much of the opinion that the top 3 picks in the draft need to be used to re-tool the defense and use the rest on whatever you want.
Yep

They need depth from free agency. Hit on some mid tier cheaper guys, draft or trade for your big names
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:07 PM   #85
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There are only a select few players on the defensive side of the ball worth throwing a wad of cash at in free agency and, unfortunately, most of them play positions we have hefty contracts at already or our own free agents as worthy of re-signing. I think FA Money is going to be best spent on mid-tier offensive players and some defensive reclamation projects. I'm pretty much of the opinion that the top 3 picks in the draft need to be used to re-tool the defense and use the rest on whatever you want.
The S position has some pretty decent FA options. Might be the way to go there.
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The S position has some pretty decent FA options. Might be the way to go there.
Perhaps.

I think you immediately cross Landon Collins off the list. The Giants won't let him go, especially for free. They'll tag him at worst and they have enough cap to absorb it. He's the best safety in the NFL.

Let's move on to Tyrann Mathieu. Grossly overrated but has a leadership quality to him that the Texans love. He's the 3rd best safety on that team but something tells me they'll let Kareem Jackson walk and work hard to re-sign Mathieu. Honestly, I'd probably pass on bringing him in if available.

Now onto Earl Thomas... Easily the most likely to sign in KC and easily the one that will be available. After his **** you gesture to the team and coaches, there's no way Seattle even attempts to re-sign him. He'd be a good get but he's going to be 30 and he has two broken legs in 3 years. I'm cautious and he's going to command over $10m per.

So we get to Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix. Obviously, the Redskins are going to try their asses off to re-sign him. He's played well for them and they traded for him. I don't think he hits the market.

Now we have Lamarcus Joyner. Joyner has been a key piece of the Rams defense for several years now and they thought so well of him that they put the franchise tag on him. I'm thinking they waited to sign Joyner long-term because of the Aaron Donald situation. That said, Joyner's play has regressed severely this season and that puts his status in question. I don't think he's a schematic fit in KC, especially given his struggles playing single-high this year the way KC plays it, and would likely pass regardless of whatever happens.

We have Tre Boston, whom I like alot. I think he fits the age/price/production criteria that I'd look for. Arizona thinks quite a bit of him though too and I think they'll try to keep him in town. I'd have to think Boston is looking to settle in somewhere as well, having jumped around a few times already in his career. I have a hard time seeing Arizona letting him walk but if they do then KC should see what he's asking.

You also have Adrian Amos who is a very solid SS but he's not amazing in coverage. I think it depends on your plans for Berry on whether or not you look at this kid. Even then, I think Chicago is going to work to re-sign him and he doesn't hit the market.

That, pretty much, leaves Eric Reid as the last of a tier. Now, Reid is talented and he would likely fit but he's not someone I see KC pursuing. He's extremely positioned with the whole protest movement and whatnot as well as being vocal and even confrontational about it (see the Malcolm Jenkins ordeal). Clark Hunt isn't signing off on that in this locker room so take him straight off the list.
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This is my guy...Elijah Holyfield

That's my man right there. If we can snag him on day two I think he's a bargain.

He doesn't have a lot of wear on him at the college level and plays a similar style to kareem.
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My biggest concern right now is that Darrel Williams is the only RB on the team who is currently on a contract for 2019.

Yeah, some re-signings are in order, but if things go south, or some team signs Ware or Damien Williams for more money, we're really in a pickle.

I'd kind of like to see Darrel Williams have one or two carries coming up here so we can at least get some awesome training camp hype going about him.

It's not necessarily the quality of our options. It's the fact that we need so many to round out a corps for next year's team.
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That's my man right there. If we can snag him on day two I think he's a bargain.

He doesn't have a lot of wear on him at the college level and plays a similar style to kareem.
So you think he's the REAL DEAL?
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