Welp. Looks like we need a RB.

[KC Hawks]

So who looks good in this upcoming draft?

[htismaqe]

If they spend a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a running back they're stupid.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

If they spend a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a running back they're stupid.

I agree.

[UChieffyBugger]

I disagree. A good rb would take this offense to an even higher level. For all the great things our O did last season, keeping the ball and taking time off the clock was not something it was good at and we need to address that by getting a back that can frustrate the opposition and get those extra yards.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

I disagree. A good rb would take this offense to an even higher level. For all the great things our O did last season, keeping the ball and taking time off the clock was not something it was good at and we need to address that by getting a back that can frustrate the opposition and get those extra yards.

If you're disagreeing with me, that makes me even more sure I'm right.

[O.city]

You aren't taking the offense to a higher level by taking the ball out of the MVP's hands MORE.

If you want to increase the offense, get another TE or a WR or a pass catching RB.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

You aren't taking the offense to a higher level by taking the ball out of the MVP's hands MORE.

If you want to increase the offense, get another TE or a WR or a pass catching RB.

Somebody did a great analysis of how much worse Fournette being active made the Jags offense and the reason was the Jags compulsion to get 'value' from their high draft pick; it made them more predictable.

Now take that same problem and exacerbate it by taking the ball away from Mahomes instead of Bortles.

Using a premium pick on a RB is a terrible idea. It could very easily make this team actively worse.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Somebody did a great analysis of how much worse Fournette being active made the Jags offense and the reason was the Jags compulsion to get 'value' from their high draft pick; it made them more predictable.

Now take that same problem and exacerbate it by taking the ball away from Mahomes instead of Bortles.

Using a premium pick on a RB is a terrible idea. It could very easily make this team actively worse.

Good post.

Not only could it make it worse, there's zero chance it makes it better. The Chiefs HAD that kind of RB in Kareem Hunt and it didn't make a difference. The offense was just as good without him as it was with. People plug their ears and say "na na na" but that's just pure denial. Objectively, the offense was the same without Hunt.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

I disagree. A good rb would take this offense to an even higher level. For all the great things our O did last season, keeping the ball and taking time off the clock was not something it was good at and we need to address that by getting a back that can frustrate the opposition and get those extra yards.

The last few games, Williams proved he can do just that. Another one might land in the lap as well, but I don't think the Chiefs are targeting one

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

If you're disagreeing with me, that makes me even more sure I'm right.

Well I hope you don't agree with me if I tell you you know what you're talking about .

A good RB is still needed to keep this offense at an elite level, fullstop. If folks didn't notice the impact that Hunt leaving had on the team then I don't know what to tell you. The Pats could never have shut out Tyreek and Travis on the field IF Kareem was there. Williams is decent, not elite.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Somebody did a great analysis of how much worse Fournette being active made the Jags offense and the reason was the Jags compulsion to get 'value' from their high draft pick; it made them more predictable.

Now take that same problem and exacerbate it by taking the ball away from Mahomes instead of Bortles.

Using a premium pick on a RB is a terrible idea. It could very easily make this team actively worse.

I don’t disagree, but the presence of D & D Williams allow the Chiefs to not have to invest early for a “bellcow” type. I think a complementary back will be added later in the draft that can act as a change of pace and be able to catch the ball out of the backfield.

I’m intrigued by Trayveon Williams. Natural pass catcher, excellent in the screen game, and a competent IZ/OZ runner. Reminds me of a slightly bigger Darren Sproles. He’s probably available in the 5th round....

[O.city]

The Chiefs are built around the QB now. If they have a RB that's not blind and is decently fast and can catch, they can make due.

If they have an elite RB fall into their lap, sure take one. But don't expand a lot for it.

Pass rushers, Corners, Pass catchers.

[UChieffyBugger]

There's so many decent backs available it's ridiculous.

Wes Hills= intrigues me the most with his size and speed.

Elijah Holyfield= Packs a punch like his father. His running style reminds me of Elliot tbh

Byce Love= Pure speed

Benny Snell= The numbers he's put up are staggering

Dexter Williams= A late riser but seems to do most things well

LJ Scott= Like I mentioned earlier In this thread the kid has La'Veon Bell traits to him.

Jordan Scarlett= Could be the gem of this class If he lands at the right place

Darrel Henderson= Looks like a slightly smaller Kareem Hunt to me

Rodney Anderson= I think he is the one for us but Veach would have to be sure he can stay healthy. Being part of a rotation with the Williams would do him good imo because his talent is not in doubt.

Alexander Mattison= Another young gem In the making

I think Jacobs, Montgomery, Harris and maybe Justice Hill will be taken before we consider a RB tbh. Hell even Bryce Love could be gone by then too.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

I don’t disagree, but the presence of D & D Williams allow the Chiefs to not have to invest early for a “bellcow” type. I think a complementary back will be added later in the draft that can act as a change of pace and be able to catch the ball out of the backfield.

I’m intrigued by Trayveon Williams. Natural pass catcher, excellent in the screen game, and a competent IZ/OZ runner. Reminds me of a slightly bigger Darren Sproles. He’s probably available in the 5th round....

I still think this is a perfect spot to take a gamble on Rodney Anderson late. If the pick busts, who cares? If it doesn't and you can get even a few healthy games or several as a rotational back, Anderson is as talented as any RB in this draft.

It's incredibly stupid to compare him to Fred Taylor because Taylor was a HoF caliber back, but Taylor also had a lot of injury concerns pretty much his whole career and early on, when the Jags needed him healthy, he oftentimes wasn't and it really hurt them when he'd go down.

Later in his career, when MJD got there, they could use him in a rotation with Jones-Drew and it really helped prolong his career and it gave the Jags the depth they needed to keep gambling on Taylor's talent.

Closer to home, you had Okoye and Barry Word. Okoye's style was just so punishing that you knew he'd miss several games every year. That's a hard guy to build around on his own but when you have Barry Word available to back him up, you can sleep comfortably knowing that you can use Okoye to his fullest extent and when he inevitably goes down for a bit, you have a valuable, productive back right behind him.

You can't draft Rodney Anderson expecting him to be your primary ballcarrier for 16 games, but you can take him and hope that he gives you 150 dynamic carries with Williams and Williams in reserve to carry the load when he can't go. And if his career is shorter than most because his injury history - who cares? He's a RB - churn and burn baby.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I still think this is a perfect spot to take a gamble on Rodney Anderson late. If the pick busts, who cares? If it doesn't and you can get even a few healthy games or several as a rotational back, Anderson is as talented as any RB in this draft.

It's incredibly stupid to compare him to Fred Taylor because Taylor was a HoF caliber back, but Taylor also had a lot of injury concerns pretty much his whole career and early on, when the Jags needed him healthy, he oftentimes wasn't and it really hurt them when he'd go down.

Later in his career, when MJD got there, they could use him in a rotation with Jones-Drew and it really helped prolong his career and it gave the Jags the depth they needed to keep gambling on Taylor's talent.

Closer to home, you had Okoye and Barry Word. Okoye's style was just so punishing that you knew he'd miss several games every year. That's a hard guy to build around on his own but when you have Barry Word available to back him up, you can sleep comfortably knowing that you can use Okoye to his fullest extent and when he inevitably goes down for a bit, you have a valuable, productive back right behind him.

You can't draft Rodney Anderson expecting him to be your primary ballcarrier for 16 games, but you can take him and hope that he gives you 150 dynamic carries with Williams and Williams in reserve to carry the load when he can't go. And if his career is shorter than most because his injury history - who cares? He's a RB - churn and burn baby.

Like I said above, I fully expect/Hope that Anderson falls to us because other teams won't want to take a risk on a back that could go down at any time. So with us he'd have the ability to be a rotational back with the Williams bros and could slowly develop whilst not taking too much punishment. Then if he proves his fitness over the entire season then he can get more and more snaps the year after.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Well I hope you don't agree with me if I tell you you know what you're talking about .

A good RB is still needed to keep this offense at an elite level, fullstop. If folks didn't notice the impact that Hunt leaving had on the team then I don't know what to tell you. The Pats could never have shut out Tyreek and Travis on the field IF Kareem was there. Williams is decent, not elite.

You obviously didn't watch the AFCCG, when Williams has a GREAT game.

There was no drop-off in the offense after Hunt went out. The offense changed a bit but it was still every bit as good.

It's not 1995 anymore.